Comments on: Fake it ’till you Make it! :D http://billcammack.com/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/ Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:15:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Penelope Trunk http://billcammack.com/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-319 Penelope Trunk Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:16:35 +0000 http://reelsolid.tv/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-319 Maybe your true calling is being a couples therapist :) Maybe your true calling is being a couples therapist :)

]]> By: Bill C. http://billcammack.com/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-318 Bill C. Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:08:03 +0000 http://reelsolid.tv/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-318 <i>PT; I wonder, though, if women are able to quell their tendency to talk when men don’t care, or if it is impossible, because men actaully care about so little And if that’s the case, then men must be extra annoyed by women at work because usually there is no possiblity of sex.</i> hahaha First of all..... there's *ALWAYS* 'possibility of sex' in the workplace! :D Even if there isn't, the guy THINKS there is or IS THINKING about it anyway, so in his perception (assuming he's interested in his co-worker) there's always a chance, however extremely remote it may be... that she'll hook up with him. Second, you're right that part of the problem is that men care about so little, hahaha. The trick for women is to learn to PERCEIVE when he doesn't care what you're talking about. That's the proverbial "tough row to hoe", because just as you pointed out that men overestimate how attracted women are to them... women overestimate how INTERESTED men are in what they have to say. Men don't make this easier, because they ACT LIKE they're interested to make the situation go away as soon as possible. This isn't so much of a problem in the workplace, IMO, because she might have some technical information that's necessary for your job. In that case, men are all ears. As long as it's something worthwhile TO HIM to hear about, whether that's business or a shared hobby (fixing cars or whatever), it's easy to actually be involved in that conversation. I guess the bottom line is that if she would just learn about what he actually LIKES to talk about, she'd be able to judge whether or not to bring up the family get-together she attended with her three aunts and grandmother where they talked about crocheting and sipped lemonade in the back yard..... :/ PT; I wonder, though, if women are able to quell their tendency to talk when men don’t care, or if it is impossible, because men actaully care about so little And if that’s the case, then men must be extra annoyed by women at work because usually there is no possiblity of sex.

hahaha First of all….. there’s *ALWAYS* ‘possibility of sex’ in the workplace! :D Even if there isn’t, the guy THINKS there is or IS THINKING about it anyway, so in his perception (assuming he’s interested in his co-worker) there’s always a chance, however extremely remote it may be… that she’ll hook up with him.

Second, you’re right that part of the problem is that men care about so little, hahaha. The trick for women is to learn to PERCEIVE when he doesn’t care what you’re talking about. That’s the proverbial “tough row to hoe”, because just as you pointed out that men overestimate how attracted women are to them… women overestimate how INTERESTED men are in what they have to say. Men don’t make this easier, because they ACT LIKE they’re interested to make the situation go away as soon as possible. This isn’t so much of a problem in the workplace, IMO, because she might have some technical information that’s necessary for your job. In that case, men are all ears. As long as it’s something worthwhile TO HIM to hear about, whether that’s business or a shared hobby (fixing cars or whatever), it’s easy to actually be involved in that conversation.

I guess the bottom line is that if she would just learn about what he actually LIKES to talk about, she’d be able to judge whether or not to bring up the family get-together she attended with her three aunts and grandmother where they talked about crocheting and sipped lemonade in the back yard….. :/

]]> By: Penelope Trunk http://billcammack.com/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-317 Penelope Trunk Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:19:23 +0000 http://reelsolid.tv/2006/12/11/fake-it-till-you-make-it-d/#comment-317 Hi, Bill. This makes me laugh, "women are notorious for telling men things they never asked about." This is completely true for every boyfriend I've had, and true for my husband, who now gives me rote responses because I get so annoyed when he says nothing. I wonder, though, if this happens at work -- which is, of course, the territory of most of my writing. It is clear that women talk differently at work when there are no men in the room. So I have a feeling that women know to adjust conversation for men to cover the topics that the men like (sports, anyone?) I wonder, though, if women are able to quell their tendency to talk when men don't care, or if it is impossible, because men actaully care about so little :) And if that's the case, then men must be extra annoyed by women at work because usually there is no possiblity of sex. Hi, Bill. This makes me laugh, “women are notorious for telling men things they never asked about.” This is completely true for every boyfriend I’ve had, and true for my husband, who now gives me rote responses because I get so annoyed when he says nothing.

I wonder, though, if this happens at work — which is, of course, the territory of most of my writing. It is clear that women talk differently at work when there are no men in the room. So I have a feeling that women know to adjust conversation for men to cover the topics that the men like (sports, anyone?)

I wonder, though, if women are able to quell their tendency to talk when men don’t care, or if it is impossible, because men actaully care about so little :) And if that’s the case, then men must be extra annoyed by women at work because usually there is no possiblity of sex.

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