I think that Rox’s point is summed up where she says “Women who are waiting for men to change will wait forever to feel at ease on the street”. It’s never going to happen.

There will never, EVER be a time when 100% of males will agree not to approach women they think are attractive that they happen to run into in the street or any other public place.

We most definitely “blame the men who are doing something wrong and call on them to have some self control”, but calling on them to do that doesn’t mean they have to comply. What then? \o/

A strategy needs to be in place for the times when y’all run into guys that don’t subscribe to the “leave her alone” theory. You’re right that the ‘solution’ doesn’t have to be “Aura In”, but it has to be SOMETHING. :) You can’t just say “If he doesn’t go away, then oh well, too bad for me” and expect to feel comfortable walking down the street.

I also agree with you that women should be annoyed, offended and angry when they feel disrespected in whatever fashion (as should men). My point is that mostly, this type of conversation preaches to the choir. The guys that already believe in not trying to get numbers or dates from women that haven’t given them an indication that they’re potentially receptive to advances agree with you entirely, but they’re not the guys that walk up to you in the street.

The guys that walk up to you in the street couldn’t care less what you think about it so y’all need a contingency plan for the times that good manners and etiquette aren’t enough to get a guy to not approach you in the first place or to back off if you act like you’re ignoring him or you’re not interested.

I recognize how annoying it’s got to be for women because I would be annoyed if I couldn’t walk around town and have people mind their business and not speak to me unless I looked like I wanted to talk to them about something. I’m not saying “Accept this because this is how things are and how they’re going to be”. I’m saying that SINCE this is how things are going to be, it’s best to figure out an effective strategy to deal with it.

and to your “They were upset by ANY indication that a guy wanted them, sexually.” they didn’t ask to be informed that these men thought they were attractive and wanted to have sex with them and are rightfully annoyed, offended, and angry as a result of uninvited advances and attention.