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	<title>Comments on: Truth vs. Relationships</title>
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		<title>By: Games Without Frontiers (NYC Mercs) &#124; Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/03/27/truth-vs-relationships/#comment-21411</link>
		<dc:creator>Games Without Frontiers (NYC Mercs) &#124; Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would seem like the obvious solution is to only become involved with trustworthy people. Unfortunately, most people&#8217;s ability to judge character is WAY less refined than the snake [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/03/27/truth-vs-relationships/#comment-19661</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa.  Thanks for the comment. :)

Yeah, that&#039;s basically how it works.  There are honest people and... not-honest people, personality-wise.  When you see these people that don&#039;t have any problems stealing people&#039;s life savings through investment scams, it&#039;s because they don&#039;t have a problem with lying to people or stealing from them.

It&#039;s the same way in relationships.  There are some guys who value honesty over getting what they want.  There are other guys who value getting what they want over honesty.  The problem is that women never check for this before getting involved with a guy and then y&#039;all usually never find out until the situation&#039;s already played itself out and you&#039;re left holding the bag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa.  Thanks for the comment. :)</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s basically how it works.  There are honest people and&#8230; not-honest people, personality-wise.  When you see these people that don&#8217;t have any problems stealing people&#8217;s life savings through investment scams, it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have a problem with lying to people or stealing from them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same way in relationships.  There are some guys who value honesty over getting what they want.  There are other guys who value getting what they want over honesty.  The problem is that women never check for this before getting involved with a guy and then y&#8217;all usually never find out until the situation&#8217;s already played itself out and you&#8217;re left holding the bag.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/03/27/truth-vs-relationships/#comment-19659</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks. This is great. I never thought about honesty as being ingrained in the personality. But it would explain both why I can&#039;t lie, and why my man can&#039;t tell the truth. It&#039;s so simple, I just leave. Thank you!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks. This is great. I never thought about honesty as being ingrained in the personality. But it would explain both why I can&#8217;t lie, and why my man can&#8217;t tell the truth. It&#8217;s so simple, I just leave. Thank you!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/03/27/truth-vs-relationships/#comment-18859</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Honey, @Steve: This is the entire issue.  Men &quot;see women coming&quot;.  The same thing that this female is saying she wants or she wants him to do, he&#039;s already heard it a million times from other women.  Sometimes, he did one thing, and he got good results.  Other times, he did the opposite and got poor results.

So it comes down to an issue of &#039;utility&#039;.  What do you need to do or say to get her to act the right way so that you can enjoy YOUR life.  It has nothing to do with The Truth in a lot of circumstances, which is what women find out down the line.

Then, the question becomes &quot;How could you tell me that you loved me when you didn&#039;t?&quot; and the answer is &quot;Because you wouldn&#039;t lay down, otherwise&quot;.

This is why women can&#039;t MAKE a guy tell them the truth.  He&#039;s either going to do it or he&#039;s not, depending on what makes his life better and also depending on in how high or low regard he holds The Truth to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Honey, @Steve: This is the entire issue.  Men &#8220;see women coming&#8221;.  The same thing that this female is saying she wants or she wants him to do, he&#8217;s already heard it a million times from other women.  Sometimes, he did one thing, and he got good results.  Other times, he did the opposite and got poor results.</p>
<p>So it comes down to an issue of &#8216;utility&#8217;.  What do you need to do or say to get her to act the right way so that you can enjoy YOUR life.  It has nothing to do with The Truth in a lot of circumstances, which is what women find out down the line.</p>
<p>Then, the question becomes &#8220;How could you tell me that you loved me when you didn&#8217;t?&#8221; and the answer is &#8220;Because you wouldn&#8217;t lay down, otherwise&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is why women can&#8217;t MAKE a guy tell them the truth.  He&#8217;s either going to do it or he&#8217;s not, depending on what makes his life better and also depending on in how high or low regard he holds The Truth to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/03/27/truth-vs-relationships/#comment-18855</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, betraying people for reasons not having to do with self preservation is a real bad, bad thing.  Apparently 10x worse if you&#039;re a Jew betraying other Jews.  I recall the recent article in the NY Times where a Rabbi was asked what this dude could do to redeem himself with his community/religion and the answer was... nothing.  NOTHING.  

Betraying trust just shatters people.  They start doubting themselves, their ability to judge others, blaming themselves and all kinds of crap like that, when the fault was really with the other person.  What trips up a lot of folks is the idea that people are fundamentally good.  They&#039;re not. Nor are they fundamentally bad.  We&#039;re all fundamentally selfish until we need someone else&#039;s cooperation to get what we want.  Where it fails is the assumption that the trade is fair in both directions.  Come to find out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, betraying people for reasons not having to do with self preservation is a real bad, bad thing.  Apparently 10x worse if you&#8217;re a Jew betraying other Jews.  I recall the recent article in the NY Times where a Rabbi was asked what this dude could do to redeem himself with his community/religion and the answer was&#8230; nothing.  NOTHING.  </p>
<p>Betraying trust just shatters people.  They start doubting themselves, their ability to judge others, blaming themselves and all kinds of crap like that, when the fault was really with the other person.  What trips up a lot of folks is the idea that people are fundamentally good.  They&#8217;re not. Nor are they fundamentally bad.  We&#8217;re all fundamentally selfish until we need someone else&#8217;s cooperation to get what we want.  Where it fails is the assumption that the trade is fair in both directions.  Come to find out&#8230;</p>
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