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	<title>Comments on: Lindsey &#038; Bill: Moving In</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-17096</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Frank:  Excellent points. :)

Everyone should catalogue the pros and cons of their SO and make sure to work that into their "game plan" for dealing with or living with them.  If the ladies get SOOOOOO LUCKY as to have a guy that a) wants to cook FOR THEM and b) knows how to COOK WELL, y'all had better just shut up, kick back and mention what kind of sauce you'd like on your spaghetti.  Go play some XBOX or something.  Shoo! Shoo!

Also, you hit on an incredible personal pet peeve of mine.  Ladies... DO NOT LOSE TRACK OF TIME!... srsly. :(  You have no idea how much it SUCKS to know that your word means NOTHING when it comes to timing.  Using Frank's example... If you say you're going to do the laundry @ 7am... when *I* (imagine that, hahaha but roll with me for the sake of an example :D ) was ready and willing to do the laundry myself at that time, you are now taking on the RESPONSIBILITY of doing it when you said you were going to do it.  Dropping the ball several times is going to make your man NOT TRUST YOUR WORD when it comes to timing.  You might get it done... eventually... but that's not what you SAID, so you still get penalized.

My issue is with timing.  If we agree to go someplace at a certain time, and you know this HOURS ahead of time and you're on leisure time beforehand (not dealing with work or some obligation that might run overtime) DO NOT show up all happy HOURS after the fact, 'tombout' "Let's Go! :D "... Nah... Nah...  I was ready to go at the time WE AGREED we were going to go.  By the time YOU show up, I might be kicking back "watching the game with some spaghetti", so don't get mad at ME because you're "so fresh and so clean, clean" and I'm not interested in whatever plans we made anymore.

Next time, do what you said WHEN you said you were gonna do it.  Word! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frank:  Excellent points. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Everyone should catalogue the pros and cons of their SO and make sure to work that into their &#8220;game plan&#8221; for dealing with or living with them.  If the ladies get SOOOOOO LUCKY as to have a guy that a) wants to cook FOR THEM and b) knows how to COOK WELL, y&#8217;all had better just shut up, kick back and mention what kind of sauce you&#8217;d like on your spaghetti.  Go play some XBOX or something.  Shoo! Shoo!</p>
<p>Also, you hit on an incredible personal pet peeve of mine.  Ladies&#8230; DO NOT LOSE TRACK OF TIME!&#8230; srsly. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  You have no idea how much it SUCKS to know that your word means NOTHING when it comes to timing.  Using Frank&#8217;s example&#8230; If you say you&#8217;re going to do the laundry @ 7am&#8230; when *I* (imagine that, hahaha but roll with me for the sake of an example <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> ) was ready and willing to do the laundry myself at that time, you are now taking on the RESPONSIBILITY of doing it when you said you were going to do it.  Dropping the ball several times is going to make your man NOT TRUST YOUR WORD when it comes to timing.  You might get it done&#8230; eventually&#8230; but that&#8217;s not what you SAID, so you still get penalized.</p>
<p>My issue is with timing.  If we agree to go someplace at a certain time, and you know this HOURS ahead of time and you&#8217;re on leisure time beforehand (not dealing with work or some obligation that might run overtime) DO NOT show up all happy HOURS after the fact, &#8216;tombout&#8217; &#8220;Let&#8217;s Go! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8220;&#8230; Nah&#8230; Nah&#8230;  I was ready to go at the time WE AGREED we were going to go.  By the time YOU show up, I might be kicking back &#8220;watching the game with some spaghetti&#8221;, so don&#8217;t get mad at ME because you&#8217;re &#8220;so fresh and so clean, clean&#8221; and I&#8217;m not interested in whatever plans we made anymore.</p>
<p>Next time, do what you said WHEN you said you were gonna do it.  Word! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-17095</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol re: "Older Post". :D

No problem, Frank.  That's what the internet's for.  When you do something on television, it disappears.  When you post it to the internet, it remains so that people newly discovering it can still enjoy the experience. hahaha All of your comments are appreciated, since most of the stuff I post is still up for discussion &#038; debate, even two years after the fact. :D

Cheers! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol re: &#8220;Older Post&#8221;. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No problem, Frank.  That&#8217;s what the internet&#8217;s for.  When you do something on television, it disappears.  When you post it to the internet, it remains so that people newly discovering it can still enjoy the experience. hahaha All of your comments are appreciated, since most of the stuff I post is still up for discussion &#038; debate, even two years after the fact. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: FRANK</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-17091</link>
		<dc:creator>FRANK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, i know this is an older post but ihave to throw my 2 cents in..."TIME to GEL" Some single guys are used to cleaning and cooking and some woman have that Im the woman so i'll do this and that mentality. If you find that the guy does cook and clean, let him! Stop walking into the kitchen and saying "i'll finish that..." or don't worry I'll clean it. For one he may be used to cooking immediately upon entering the home and having something to eat during the game while she may wait to remove make-up, clothes, talk about her interesting (yawn) day BEFORE saying, so what do you want to eat! If he is getting up to do laundry at 7am, LET HIM! saying i'll do that and still not having even left the apt at 12 noon is only going to irritate him and possibly start an argument. So he cooks on monday, during that meal say u will cook the next day and (ladies please listen) THATS THE TIME TO ASK ABOUT THE MENU! if he gets up and does the laundry today, suggest you will do it and feel free to add what time you will be starting! oh and aside from getting me a matching cheap male lotion, remember to also get me (and thats now us) a garbage can for the bathroom. I didn't need it so its really not high on my list!  and fellas reverse the steps if you are moving into her apartment/home!!! AND YES ITS FROM EXPERIENCE from which i speak.
(sorry, i know its an old posting but Im just now catching up)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, i know this is an older post but ihave to throw my 2 cents in&#8230;&#8221;TIME to GEL&#8221; Some single guys are used to cleaning and cooking and some woman have that Im the woman so i&#8217;ll do this and that mentality. If you find that the guy does cook and clean, let him! Stop walking into the kitchen and saying &#8220;i&#8217;ll finish that&#8230;&#8221; or don&#8217;t worry I&#8217;ll clean it. For one he may be used to cooking immediately upon entering the home and having something to eat during the game while she may wait to remove make-up, clothes, talk about her interesting (yawn) day BEFORE saying, so what do you want to eat! If he is getting up to do laundry at 7am, LET HIM! saying i&#8217;ll do that and still not having even left the apt at 12 noon is only going to irritate him and possibly start an argument. So he cooks on monday, during that meal say u will cook the next day and (ladies please listen) THATS THE TIME TO ASK ABOUT THE MENU! if he gets up and does the laundry today, suggest you will do it and feel free to add what time you will be starting! oh and aside from getting me a matching cheap male lotion, remember to also get me (and thats now us) a garbage can for the bathroom. I didn&#8217;t need it so its really not high on my list!  and fellas reverse the steps if you are moving into her apartment/home!!! AND YES ITS FROM EXPERIENCE from which i speak.<br />
(sorry, i know its an old posting but Im just now catching up)</p>
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		<title>By: Male Birth Control Pills!!! &#124; Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16467</link>
		<dc:creator>Male Birth Control Pills!!! &#124; Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will be great for those guys that get into situations where they&#8217;re living with a chick or married to her or whatever, and according to her, there&#8217;s no reason for him to still be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be great for those guys that get into situations where they&#8217;re living with a chick or married to her or whatever, and according to her, there&#8217;s no reason for him to still be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16412</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, Thanks, T! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, Thanks, T! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Taiwan</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16411</link>
		<dc:creator>Taiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4) Post-Sex Arrangements:

B: Now that she’s living with you, you can’t tell her you have to go home right after you tap that.


hahaha thats great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4) Post-Sex Arrangements:</p>
<p>B: Now that she’s living with you, you can’t tell her you have to go home right after you tap that.</p>
<p>hahaha thats great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16343</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Liz: That's actually another important consideration... Does moving in imply moving into the same ROOM or 'just' the same apartment?

Also, now that you mention leases, stuff like this is more important where the rents are higher.  If 'cost of living' is low, let her move into a different apartment in your building or onto your same block.  There's the same proximity, but in case of static, you don't have to come home and look at her, hahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liz: That&#8217;s actually another important consideration&#8230; Does moving in imply moving into the same ROOM or &#8216;just&#8217; the same apartment?</p>
<p>Also, now that you mention leases, stuff like this is more important where the rents are higher.  If &#8216;cost of living&#8217; is low, let her move into a different apartment in your building or onto your same block.  There&#8217;s the same proximity, but in case of static, you don&#8217;t have to come home and look at her, hahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16331</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 05:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure if I am ok with living with a guy. Traditionally the answer is no. I guess it depends on the circumstances. I was thinking I could do it if we had a 2 bedroom apt and I had my own room, but I know I'd rather share a room and turn the 2nd bedroom into a joint office. Maybe if  we were engaged and were in some weird leasing schedule and needed to squat a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I am ok with living with a guy. Traditionally the answer is no. I guess it depends on the circumstances. I was thinking I could do it if we had a 2 bedroom apt and I had my own room, but I know I&#8217;d rather share a room and turn the 2nd bedroom into a joint office. Maybe if  we were engaged and were in some weird leasing schedule and needed to squat a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: BOINKOLOGY &#124; Boinkable Links</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16319</link>
		<dc:creator>BOINKOLOGY &#124; Boinkable Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moving In - Bill Cammack [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16308</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lindsey: lolol OH NOOOOES!!! :O

Sorry Fellaz!  Apparently, I've spilled the beans! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lindsey: lolol OH NOOOOES!!! :O</p>
<p>Sorry Fellaz!  Apparently, I&#8217;ve spilled the beans! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16307</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I'd like my man to be looking nice when he goes out. However... buying hideous clothes is not such a bad idea. I bet you could get them on sale and for a much better price. good idea, bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;d like my man to be looking nice when he goes out. However&#8230; buying hideous clothes is not such a bad idea. I bet you could get them on sale and for a much better price. good idea, bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16306</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Joe, for providing "the voice of experience" to this post! :D

One thing you have to watch out for is letting women buy clothes for you.  The comedian "Sinbad" outlined this very professionally, in that women will attempt to dress you in a fashion that's less attractive to other women! hahahaha

Territorial Pissings! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Joe, for providing &#8220;the voice of experience&#8221; to this post! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing you have to watch out for is letting women buy clothes for you.  The comedian &#8220;Sinbad&#8221; outlined this very professionally, in that women will attempt to dress you in a fashion that&#8217;s less attractive to other women! hahahaha</p>
<p>Territorial Pissings! <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JoeC</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/05/14/lindsey-bill-moving-in/#comment-16305</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the guys: Realize that once you live with a women, you are merely a tolerated outsider in the bathroom. Women consider the bathroom *theirs* no matter whose pad it was to begin with. So, even if you have separate sinks and mirrors, be ready to find her curling iron, hair dryer and assorted other female bath products in your part of the bathroom. There is a definite upside to this, however. As was noted in the blog post, women like to have their territory neat and clean and will often undertake this task on your behalf. Be also ready for the accumulation of shampoo products in and around the tub or shower. Women buy shampoos almost with the same frequency as lip gloss, and NEVER throw them away, even if they haven't used them in a year. Sort of like old boyfriends, I think. My strategy on this has been simple. I keep a mental note of which shampoo is the oldest. When I can't find room for my ONE FUCKING bottle of shampoo, I move the oldest unused of hers into her area. She usually gets the message. :)
Oh, that female territorial thing also and especially extends to closet space. Be prepared to have 1/4 of the clothes closet begrudgingly allocated to your stuff. The upside here is that women generally love to buy clothes for you, and if *she* buys it (assuming it doesn't look *too* gay), then she'll happily allocate you space in *her* closet for it. :)
Good piece. Living with someone gives you the opportunity to learn what they're really all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the guys: Realize that once you live with a women, you are merely a tolerated outsider in the bathroom. Women consider the bathroom *theirs* no matter whose pad it was to begin with. So, even if you have separate sinks and mirrors, be ready to find her curling iron, hair dryer and assorted other female bath products in your part of the bathroom. There is a definite upside to this, however. As was noted in the blog post, women like to have their territory neat and clean and will often undertake this task on your behalf. Be also ready for the accumulation of shampoo products in and around the tub or shower. Women buy shampoos almost with the same frequency as lip gloss, and NEVER throw them away, even if they haven&#8217;t used them in a year. Sort of like old boyfriends, I think. My strategy on this has been simple. I keep a mental note of which shampoo is the oldest. When I can&#8217;t find room for my ONE FUCKING bottle of shampoo, I move the oldest unused of hers into her area. She usually gets the message. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Oh, that female territorial thing also and especially extends to closet space. Be prepared to have 1/4 of the clothes closet begrudgingly allocated to your stuff. The upside here is that women generally love to buy clothes for you, and if *she* buys it (assuming it doesn&#8217;t look *too* gay), then she&#8217;ll happily allocate you space in *her* closet for it. <img src='http://billcammack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Good piece. Living with someone gives you the opportunity to learn what they&#8217;re really all about.</p>
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