Comments on: How to Argue With a Woman… and Win! http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:09:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/#comment-27898 Chris Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:22:22 +0000 http://billcammack.com/?p=1535#comment-27898 This should have said winning arguments with ur SO because I had 2 insipid arguments with women who I have worked with. These were email encounters and people now hate to write so they say vague things and make presumptions because hey, it's easier than checking to see if it's true! One started because i made a reference in passing about an email that hadn't been replied to. That wasn't the issue and it wasn't a problem but she had a hyper sensitivity to being told that she didn't answer and to her mentioning it mean I am mad about it. Explaining what part it played was pointless. She kept refering to my being mad and then she brought in unrelated issues. It got nastier and she got more insulting. At the exact same time I had been asked to Skype by someone else and after 3 or 4 lines she had to leave. Later I sent her an email talking about something else and joked that i thought Skyping meant more than 3 or 4 lines. Did that ever set her off! One thing they both did was even when they would "try to calm the whole thing down" they inserted something that I would have to stop doing. And it was the original complaint that I had disproven. A trip and huge project depended on these girls and because they have certain triggers that I only learn about after the fact I'm ready to blow my brains out. I believe in honest communication. People don't think. They react. This should have said winning arguments with ur SO because I had 2 insipid arguments with women who I have worked with. These were email encounters and people now hate to write so they say vague things and make presumptions because hey, it’s easier than checking to see if it’s true! One started because i made a reference in passing about an email that hadn’t been replied to. That wasn’t the issue and it wasn’t a problem but she had a hyper sensitivity to being told that she didn’t answer and to her mentioning it mean I am mad about it. Explaining what part it played was pointless. She kept refering to my being mad and then she brought in unrelated issues. It got nastier and she got more insulting. At the exact same time I had been asked to Skype by someone else and after 3 or 4 lines she had to leave. Later I sent her an email talking about something else and joked that i thought Skyping meant more than 3 or 4 lines. Did that ever set her off! One thing they both did was even when they would “try to calm the whole thing down” they inserted something that I would have to stop doing. And it was the original complaint that I had disproven. A trip and huge project depended on these girls and because they have certain triggers that I only learn about after the fact I’m ready to blow my brains out. I believe in honest communication. People don’t think. They react.

]]> By: Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/#comment-22832 Bill Cammack Mon, 18 May 2009 23:44:43 +0000 http://billcammack.com/?p=1535#comment-22832 Hey Nathan. Thanks for the comment. :) Clearly, "Just Because" is not a winning argument under ANY circumstances. As far as deception, degrees of deception are always necessary in order to provide social lubricant. Like, let's say a guy is dating a girl that happens to be out of shape, overweight... fat. Then, let's say that she asks him one day "Does this dress make me look fat?" He has a couple of options... He can do the Al Bundy and tell her "No... It's the FAT that makes you look fat!" and then not get laid for like a week or two... or he can lie and make her feel good and then she'll make HIM feel good, which is the point of being with her in the first place. The loophole there is if he doesn't think she looks fat anyway. That way, he can answer truthfully and stay in her good graces, but you see my point. You can either tell a chick the truth and suffer the consequences or tell her what she wants to hear and get the utility out of her that you imagined the first time you walked up to her at the bar or in the supermarket and kicked it to her. As far as your being out past 3am after a year and a half, not to get in your personal business, but that's complete bullshit. :D She trusts you or she doesn't. You can't get laid any easier between 2am and 3am than you can between 10am and 11am or 10pm and 11pm. If she doesn't trust you after 2am, she doesn't trust you at all. Lame. The fact of the matter is that she's selected parameters within which she's confident that you're not cheating on her. It's retarded, but it's her own set of parameters that she's comfortable with. This is "your fault" for consistently NOT staying out past 2am. She feels that as long as you stay within the parameters she's comfortable with, she "knows" you're not cheating on her. As soon as you go outside of them, she becomes insecure about her control over you in this relationship. Clearly, that's the problem, NOT that she felt scared to be alone in the house. If she felt scared to be alone in the house after 2am, she wouldn't stay OUT. IN. THE. STREET after 2am. She can be out after 2am because she believes you're at home and not stroking the next woman while she's out on the town. So, she's not 'scared' of ANYTHING other than you doing what you want to do between 2am and 3am in the morning. On top of that, if you've gotten her used to your playing poker every week, she STILL thinks she knows you're not cheating during that time. She's confident that you're spending time with the fellaz, but if you stay out LONGER than that, she starts to imagine that you're kickin' it with some chick instead of coming home to her. As far as arguing with someone that's not intelligent, don't bother! :D In those situations, it's much more fun to deliberately say things that make no sense whatsoever and watch them get confused because they can't argue with what you said. Next time she says "You were out later than usual!" reply that her mother lives in [wherever her mother lives]. That way, at least you get about a 30 second break from the nagging while she tries to figure out the relevance. Keep a bunch of these in your repertoire and you'll eventually be able to confuse her out of the entire conversation, because she'll be so upset that you won't argue with her. :) The fact of the matter is that since you're clearly smarter than she is, you shouldn't be ARGUING with her AT ALL. You should be TELLING. HER. HOW. IT. IS. "You came home an hour after you said you would!" "I'm here now.".. See how that works? By arguing with her, you're giving her props as an equal and fueling her fire to try to argue with you because she thinks YOU THINK she's making sense with her arguments. Let her stay mad. <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/05/27/how-to-please-your-woman/" rel="nofollow">Don't bother trying to please her</a>. If you keep indulging her in these ridiculous arguments, such as how late a grown-ass-man is allowed to remain outside of his own house on any given day he chooses, you're dooming yourself to repeating this cycle ad infinitum and just making yourself upset at her instead of ignoring her and enjoying her for what you kicked it to her for in the first place. Hey Nathan. Thanks for the comment. :)

Clearly, “Just Because” is not a winning argument under ANY circumstances.

As far as deception, degrees of deception are always necessary in order to provide social lubricant. Like, let’s say a guy is dating a girl that happens to be out of shape, overweight… fat. Then, let’s say that she asks him one day “Does this dress make me look fat?” He has a couple of options…

He can do the Al Bundy and tell her “No… It’s the FAT that makes you look fat!” and then not get laid for like a week or two… or he can lie and make her feel good and then she’ll make HIM feel good, which is the point of being with her in the first place.

The loophole there is if he doesn’t think she looks fat anyway. That way, he can answer truthfully and stay in her good graces, but you see my point. You can either tell a chick the truth and suffer the consequences or tell her what she wants to hear and get the utility out of her that you imagined the first time you walked up to her at the bar or in the supermarket and kicked it to her.

As far as your being out past 3am after a year and a half, not to get in your personal business, but that’s complete bullshit. :D She trusts you or she doesn’t. You can’t get laid any easier between 2am and 3am than you can between 10am and 11am or 10pm and 11pm. If she doesn’t trust you after 2am, she doesn’t trust you at all. Lame.

The fact of the matter is that she’s selected parameters within which she’s confident that you’re not cheating on her. It’s retarded, but it’s her own set of parameters that she’s comfortable with. This is “your fault” for consistently NOT staying out past 2am. She feels that as long as you stay within the parameters she’s comfortable with, she “knows” you’re not cheating on her. As soon as you go outside of them, she becomes insecure about her control over you in this relationship.

Clearly, that’s the problem, NOT that she felt scared to be alone in the house. If she felt scared to be alone in the house after 2am, she wouldn’t stay OUT. IN. THE. STREET after 2am. She can be out after 2am because she believes you’re at home and not stroking the next woman while she’s out on the town. So, she’s not ‘scared’ of ANYTHING other than you doing what you want to do between 2am and 3am in the morning.

On top of that, if you’ve gotten her used to your playing poker every week, she STILL thinks she knows you’re not cheating during that time. She’s confident that you’re spending time with the fellaz, but if you stay out LONGER than that, she starts to imagine that you’re kickin’ it with some chick instead of coming home to her.

As far as arguing with someone that’s not intelligent, don’t bother! :D In those situations, it’s much more fun to deliberately say things that make no sense whatsoever and watch them get confused because they can’t argue with what you said. Next time she says “You were out later than usual!” reply that her mother lives in [wherever her mother lives]. That way, at least you get about a 30 second break from the nagging while she tries to figure out the relevance. Keep a bunch of these in your repertoire and you’ll eventually be able to confuse her out of the entire conversation, because she’ll be so upset that you won’t argue with her. :)

The fact of the matter is that since you’re clearly smarter than she is, you shouldn’t be ARGUING with her AT ALL. You should be TELLING. HER. HOW. IT. IS. “You came home an hour after you said you would!” “I’m here now.”.. See how that works? By arguing with her, you’re giving her props as an equal and fueling her fire to try to argue with you because she thinks YOU THINK she’s making sense with her arguments.

Let her stay mad. Don’t bother trying to please her. If you keep indulging her in these ridiculous arguments, such as how late a grown-ass-man is allowed to remain outside of his own house on any given day he chooses, you’re dooming yourself to repeating this cycle ad infinitum and just making yourself upset at her instead of ignoring her and enjoying her for what you kicked it to her for in the first place.

]]> By: Nathan Stevens http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/#comment-22830 Nathan Stevens Mon, 18 May 2009 22:36:27 +0000 http://billcammack.com/?p=1535#comment-22830 The day I stop hearing the "just because" reason from woman is the day I become a happy man. The first woman spoke of trickery and fake resolutions to conflict. How else can you co-exist with a woman, much less any other human being without some deception. I understand how that sounds, but please tell me I am wrong. I dare anyone to tell me they are not being deceived by a partner of any gender. My girl is mad at me for being out past 3 am for the first time in our relationship. (1 1/2 years) I asked her why she was mad and she said because she's scared to be alone in the house. I asked her how she can be mad at me for her feeling scared and she told me it was because im not considerate. I asked her what would have been more considerate and she said some time around 2 am. So I asked her why it wasn't considered inconsiderate for her to be out late past 2 am(which btw, I have no problem with, and she confirmed that to me in this conversation)? she responded that she doesnt do it very often. I asked how that makes any difference, since this is my first offence. To which she responded you go out till 12:30- 1 am every thursday to a friendly poker game. To which I responded, but that is within the considerate time frame to which she responded. Whatever! do whatever you want! I dont care. Point and Match! Most woman(most meaning more than 50 percent, which is hugely generous) cannot argue intelligently. Also, they are irrational, and stubborn The day I stop hearing the “just because” reason from woman is the day I become a happy man. The first woman spoke of trickery and fake resolutions to conflict. How else can you co-exist with a woman, much less any other human being without some deception. I understand how that sounds, but please tell me I am wrong. I dare anyone to tell me they are not being deceived by a partner of any gender. My girl is mad at me for being out past 3 am for the first time in our relationship. (1 1/2 years) I asked her why she was mad and she said because she’s scared to be alone in the house. I asked her how she can be mad at me for her feeling scared and she told me it was because im not considerate. I asked her what would have been more considerate and she said some time around 2 am. So I asked her why it wasn’t considered inconsiderate for her to be out late past 2 am(which btw, I have no problem with, and she confirmed that to me in this conversation)? she responded that she doesnt do it very often. I asked how that makes any difference, since this is my first offence. To which she responded you go out till 12:30- 1 am every thursday to a friendly poker game. To which I responded, but that is within the considerate time frame to which she responded. Whatever! do whatever you want! I dont care. Point and Match! Most woman(most meaning more than 50 percent, which is hugely generous) cannot argue intelligently. Also, they are irrational, and stubborn

]]> By: Bill Cammack http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/#comment-22688 Bill Cammack Sun, 03 May 2009 22:31:21 +0000 http://billcammack.com/?p=1535#comment-22688 Hey Michael :) That's not entirely accurate. Women aren't afraid to DO the stuff that's in porno movies. They're afraid for people to *KNOW* they do the stuff that's in porno movies. They DO these things all the time, otherwise there would be a shortage of porno movie actresses. As it stands, you can get chicks all over the world to DO that stuff. They just don't announce that they're doing it, so as not to look like "Freaks" :D That's true about chicks that go on vacation. Once they feel like whatever they did in Cancun isn't going to leave Cancun, or rather that when it DOES leave Cancun, the guys that are telling stories about them don't live in their hometown and aren't part of their social media circle, it's ON and POPPIN! :D While it's true that most guys will take the sex without the talking, women are manipulative because men have given them that power. Since guys are willing to do anything for a chick they want to have sex with, that kind of treatment goes to their heads and they feel really good about themselves until they become has-beens and get treated like regular chicks for the rest of their lives. Hey Michael :)

That’s not entirely accurate. Women aren’t afraid to DO the stuff that’s in porno movies. They’re afraid for people to *KNOW* they do the stuff that’s in porno movies. They DO these things all the time, otherwise there would be a shortage of porno movie actresses. As it stands, you can get chicks all over the world to DO that stuff. They just don’t announce that they’re doing it, so as not to look like “Freaks” :D

That’s true about chicks that go on vacation. Once they feel like whatever they did in Cancun isn’t going to leave Cancun, or rather that when it DOES leave Cancun, the guys that are telling stories about them don’t live in their hometown and aren’t part of their social media circle, it’s ON and POPPIN! :D

While it’s true that most guys will take the sex without the talking, women are manipulative because men have given them that power. Since guys are willing to do anything for a chick they want to have sex with, that kind of treatment goes to their heads and they feel really good about themselves until they become has-beens and get treated like regular chicks for the rest of their lives.

]]> By: Michael Paschal http://billcammack.com/2008/08/19/how-to-argue-with-a-woman-and-win/#comment-22682 Michael Paschal Sat, 02 May 2009 22:51:39 +0000 http://billcammack.com/?p=1535#comment-22682 Pornography is what women want to do but are afraid to do because they don't want to be considered sluts. When a woman goes on vacation alone, this is the kind of stuff she does because nobody is around to judge her. Men are grossed out by women who will let them do anything to them. Women are NOT angels. Women are manipulative selfish maniacs...and men just want peace and quiet and the occasional shag without having to argue about nothing 5 minutes after. Pornography is what women want to do but are afraid to do because they don’t want to be considered sluts. When a woman goes on vacation alone, this is the kind of stuff she does because nobody is around to judge her. Men are grossed out by women who will let them do anything to them. Women are NOT angels. Women are manipulative selfish maniacs…and men just want peace and quiet and the occasional shag without having to argue about nothing 5 minutes after.

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