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		<title>By: Internet Blog-Influenced News Cycles &#124; Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/09/05/alcohol-is-no-excuse/#comment-49270</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Blog-Influenced News Cycles &#124; Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Their statements are diametrically opposed. Either he&#8217;s lying or she&#8217;s lying. There&#8217;s no statistical evidence supporting either guess. Sometimes guys are telling the truth in Sexual Harassment situations, and sometimes gals are. Sometimes, they both are, but they interpreted the situation differently or remember it differently, especially if alcohol is involved. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Their statements are diametrically opposed. Either he&#8217;s lying or she&#8217;s lying. There&#8217;s no statistical evidence supporting either guess. Sometimes guys are telling the truth in Sexual Harassment situations, and sometimes gals are. Sometimes, they both are, but they interpreted the situation differently or remember it differently, especially if alcohol is involved. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 07:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Jim.. There are several &quot;fine lines&quot; in this area.

If the guy &quot;fed her&quot; alcohol until she was incoherent, he&#039;s potentially liable for whatever happens between them.

If she incapacitated herself BEFORE hooking up with him, *SHE&#039;S* potentially liable for whatever happens.

If they both got drunk individually, that&#039;s a third situation.

The problem with this entire scenario is that once you&#039;re drunk, your recollection is suspect.  You can&#039;t say for sure that you said &quot;no&quot; if you simultaneously admit that you don&#039;t remember what happened.

People, especially women, think that how they would act when they&#039;re sober is how they act when they&#039;re drunk, and that&#039;s just not the truth.

There are chicks that I know that when they&#039;re sober around me, nothing happens.  As soon as they get drunk, they get horny and start feeling me up.  It&#039;s a pattern.  It&#039;s historically documented.  People have seen it.

These same women would say to their friends (or boyfriends or whatever) &quot;No.. I&#039;d never mess with him&quot;, but that&#039;s not worth anything, because as soon as they get drunk again, they&#039;re down with the situation.

So, your advice is valid.  Women, in particular, need to not drink anything that they didn&#039;t WATCH. THE. BARTENDER. MAKE., and they need to take responsibility for themselves, to not incapacitate themselves from drinking, as if some dude isn&#039;t going to attempt to &quot;take advantage&quot; of the situation.

Also, don&#039;t put the burden on your girlfriends to babysit you all night, cockblocking dudes from hooking up with you because you got trashed and started flirting with them, climbing up on them, and making out with them.

Basic, simple advice, but, unfortunately, incessantly necessary, because situations occur all the time where people think they can pass out drunk at a party, bar, or club and nobody&#039;s going to see that as an opportunity to have a good time at their expense.

However, at the same time, like I said.. If you don&#039;t know how you act when you&#039;re drunk, don&#039;t accuse people of wrongdoing when you&#039;re sober... This chick claimed to her boyfriend that several dudes had raped her, and when they pressed charges, she recanted because one of the dudes that hit it had been videotaping the event, and she was clearly down with it, not being taken advantage of.  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/nyregion/17hofstra.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Jim.. There are several &#8220;fine lines&#8221; in this area.</p>
<p>If the guy &#8220;fed her&#8221; alcohol until she was incoherent, he&#8217;s potentially liable for whatever happens between them.</p>
<p>If she incapacitated herself BEFORE hooking up with him, *SHE&#8217;S* potentially liable for whatever happens.</p>
<p>If they both got drunk individually, that&#8217;s a third situation.</p>
<p>The problem with this entire scenario is that once you&#8217;re drunk, your recollection is suspect.  You can&#8217;t say for sure that you said &#8220;no&#8221; if you simultaneously admit that you don&#8217;t remember what happened.</p>
<p>People, especially women, think that how they would act when they&#8217;re sober is how they act when they&#8217;re drunk, and that&#8217;s just not the truth.</p>
<p>There are chicks that I know that when they&#8217;re sober around me, nothing happens.  As soon as they get drunk, they get horny and start feeling me up.  It&#8217;s a pattern.  It&#8217;s historically documented.  People have seen it.</p>
<p>These same women would say to their friends (or boyfriends or whatever) &#8220;No.. I&#8217;d never mess with him&#8221;, but that&#8217;s not worth anything, because as soon as they get drunk again, they&#8217;re down with the situation.</p>
<p>So, your advice is valid.  Women, in particular, need to not drink anything that they didn&#8217;t WATCH. THE. BARTENDER. MAKE., and they need to take responsibility for themselves, to not incapacitate themselves from drinking, as if some dude isn&#8217;t going to attempt to &#8220;take advantage&#8221; of the situation.</p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t put the burden on your girlfriends to babysit you all night, cockblocking dudes from hooking up with you because you got trashed and started flirting with them, climbing up on them, and making out with them.</p>
<p>Basic, simple advice, but, unfortunately, incessantly necessary, because situations occur all the time where people think they can pass out drunk at a party, bar, or club and nobody&#8217;s going to see that as an opportunity to have a good time at their expense.</p>
<p>However, at the same time, like I said.. If you don&#8217;t know how you act when you&#8217;re drunk, don&#8217;t accuse people of wrongdoing when you&#8217;re sober&#8230; This chick claimed to her boyfriend that several dudes had raped her, and when they pressed charges, she recanted because one of the dudes that hit it had been videotaping the event, and she was clearly down with it, not being taken advantage of.  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/nyregion/17hofstra.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/nyregion/17hofstra.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/09/05/alcohol-is-no-excuse/#comment-45520</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a court case not so long ago somewhere in the mid west when rape accusations were thrown out by the judge when the guy faced charges, because both the guy and the girl were badly drunk during a party and then did the deed very soon after. We do live in strange times, but at least the judge (a woman) saw the &quot;free will&quot; part of two adults. And the prosecutor was crazy enough to pursue this to court.

A few guys (in college) do crazy things like willfully spiking drinks with nasty substances on top of the alcohol, but some women use this as an excuse to cover up their bad behavior and excessive drinking in regular bars even when there is no illegal added substance. My advice to college going girls in the friends and family circle is simple; never drink out of the bulk jar of drink, but rather to get a fresh bottle/can of say beer and then stop at one; something along what Bill is saying on this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a court case not so long ago somewhere in the mid west when rape accusations were thrown out by the judge when the guy faced charges, because both the guy and the girl were badly drunk during a party and then did the deed very soon after. We do live in strange times, but at least the judge (a woman) saw the &#8220;free will&#8221; part of two adults. And the prosecutor was crazy enough to pursue this to court.</p>
<p>A few guys (in college) do crazy things like willfully spiking drinks with nasty substances on top of the alcohol, but some women use this as an excuse to cover up their bad behavior and excessive drinking in regular bars even when there is no illegal added substance. My advice to college going girls in the friends and family circle is simple; never drink out of the bulk jar of drink, but rather to get a fresh bottle/can of say beer and then stop at one; something along what Bill is saying on this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/09/05/alcohol-is-no-excuse/#comment-40935</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 08:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Unfortunate circumstance, Megan. :/

However.. Like I said.. When someone&#039;s a grown-ass man or a grown-ass woman, you either know you can handle your liquor or you know that you can&#039;t.

If you know you can&#039;t handle it, don&#039;t get drunk around people you might hook up with in violation of some agreement you made.

If you know you CAN handle it, you knew what you were doing when you hooked up.

Neither one is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Unfortunate circumstance, Megan. :/</p>
<p>However.. Like I said.. When someone&#8217;s a grown-ass man or a grown-ass woman, you either know you can handle your liquor or you know that you can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If you know you can&#8217;t handle it, don&#8217;t get drunk around people you might hook up with in violation of some agreement you made.</p>
<p>If you know you CAN handle it, you knew what you were doing when you hooked up.</p>
<p>Neither one is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://billcammack.com/2008/09/05/alcohol-is-no-excuse/#comment-40795</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 06:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU 
My friend just tried to use that excuse for hooking up with my brother and I sent her this link</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU<br />
My friend just tried to use that excuse for hooking up with my brother and I sent her this link</p>
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