It turns out that Sherdog interviewed Renzo this morning @ 4am. Click the link to go to the page with the interview video.
Basically, Renzo confirms exactly what I said last night, which was obvious from watching the fight footage on DVR. He also makes a very good point about position. With the control Renzo had over the ground position, if kneeing to the head while the opponent’s grounded were *LEGAL*, the fight would have been over ASAP.
I’m glad Renzo’s ok. I had a concussion in 6th grade. I got it just before we went out to eat, and I was nauseous, my vision wasn’t really good, and the food I ate came right back up before we even left the restaurant. My friends were concerned for me, but later that day, I was fine. I’m glad the ref did the right thing and held the match up and ended up DQing Shamrock, because it’s one thing to train for months and then fight at your best conditioning, and another altogether to fight while your system isn’t operating correctly because Shamrock decided to blatantly cheat and then act like he didn’t know he wasn’t supposed to do that.
IT’S.IN.THE.RULES!!!!! 😕 Elite XC Match Rules
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent. A grounded fighter has more than just the soles of their feet on the ground. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Stomping a grounded opponent.
They’ve both said they want a rematch, so that’s probably going to happen.
Frank Shamrock decided to knee Renzo Gracie in the back of his head… TWICE!!! while they were both on the ground. That’s clearly illegal, and Shamrock was rightfully DISQUALIFIED.
The win goes to Renzo Gracie.
It’s pretty ridiculous that Shamrock’s “defense” was “I thought we came here to fight”. That doesn’t have anything to do with the clear and obvious rules that are explained to everyone before the fight… WAY before the fight. It’s not possible that Shamrock didn’t know knees or kicks to the head while your opponent is on the mat are illegal. On top of that, you can clearly see that Shamrock had his hand on Renzo’s head. He MOVED HIS HAND so he could knee Renzo, then put his hand back. He MOVED HIS HAND AGAIN so he could knee Renzo in the head AGAIN, and then put his hand back. CLEARLY illegal. CLEARLY intentional. Pathetic. :/
Apparently, Shamrock knew the rules of the match, because he was stalling on the bottom and looking for the ref to stand them back up again. How is it that he knew that there was a 15-second rule in effect, but he didn’t know kicks/knees to the head while your opponent’s on the mat are illegal? That’s good for him that he got disqualified. It would LITERALLY have been insult to injury if anything less had been the decision. No draw, No win, No “no contest”… D.Q. Period.
That’s pretty disgusting. Shamrock looked pretty smug at the end of the fight, but he SHOULD feel embarrassed. Maybe he thought it was still back in the day when A) just about anything was legal, and B) there weren’t cameras to record what you did and play it back to everyone in the arena on the spot. There was no reason for Renzo to feel he had to defend himself against knee strikes while he was on the ground. EVERYONE, including Shamrock KNEW that’s illegal. Renzo had control of both of Shamrock’s arms, so he wasn’t worried about elbows either. That was a completely pathetic showing by Shamrock. He completely cheated everyone out of seeing the true potential outcome of that fight.
I hope Renzo’s ok.
Renzo Gracie fights tonight on Showtime against Frank Shamrock. Here’s a clip from last month’s Renzo Gracie Invitational Tournament.
GOOD LUCK RENZO!!! 😀
We got there around 10 am, and left around 6 pm. There were teams from several U.S. states as well as Ottawa, Canada. UFC and IFL stars were in attendance as well. I was exhausted just from WATCHING the whole tournament! 😀
January, 2007 News
Congratulations to Carlos Feliz for recieving his blue belt!! Carlos came back from a dislocated shoulder to earn his blue belt with true Gracie Jiu Jitsu spirit. Congratulations again to Carlos for his big heart and hard training mentality!
Congrats to Carlos, because of whom I was privileged to watch the Renzo Gracie vs. Carlos Newton fight in person @ Mohegan Sun last month!
Their caption says it all… almost…
What it doesn’t say is that Renzo Gracie himself was instrumental in making sure that Carlos’ injury wasn’t as bad as it DEFINITELY COULD have been. I know Carlos has thanked him personally and sincerely, but I’d like to add my thanks as well to Renzo for going “above and beyond” what’s expected or perhaps required of someone running a school or leading any kind of group. That love for and attention to his students is what has created the enthusiastic and hard-working family that surrounds him.
CONGRATS, CARLOS!!! 😀
Last night, we took a road trip up to Mohegan Sun to cheer, support and watch Renzo fight Carlos Newton as a Superfight @ the IFL World Team Championship Finals.
There were quite a few Renzo Gracie Academy T-shirts in the arena:
The trip was a great way for me to end 2006. We met up in front of RGA in Manhattan, and took about a 5-hour chartered bus ride (thanks to endless traffic) up to Mohegan Sun. The group hustled to get food before the fights started, then it was ON! 😀
They’re going to show the fights on Fox Sports Net (FSN) sometime within the next week or so.
It’s a different experience seeing professional fighters get knocked out “in person” from watching it on television. I think it’s because on television, you’re getting whatever they show you and in person, you get to check it out with your own eyes… with nothing but air in between you and the fight. I think there’s something that you lose by watching the fight on television because they broadcast impossible views of the action. They have cameramen standing @ the ropes using zoom lenses, AND they have computer-operated cameras floating over the action. It’s impossible for you to think of what’s going on as an actual struggle between actual human beings, because the angles keep changing and you’re right on top of the action, where you couldn’t possibly be if you went to a fight. I noticed this when I looked to my right, towards the big screens that were showing what the cameras were shooting. It was necessary at times, when the action was on the mat and facing away from me, so I had no idea who was doing what. That’s when the camera angle was really useful. It was still surreal… like I was watching something else. Diverting my eyes from the screens and back to the live fighters gave me a good idea of the difference between the two experiences.
It was cool traveling with the RGA students. I don’t train, so it was interesting being around people that learn from one man in particular, and they were going to watch that man compete. I don’t know that there’s anything like it I can think of right this minute. You’re not going to see an NFL coach or NBA coach get on the field/court and get busy. Their time for that is over. Now, they just tell people what to do. Renzo Gracie has been fighting and STILL fights. There were a couple of other guys from the school that fought on the IFL card. A couple of female RGA students drove up as well. Wives and children of the students attended also. Looking around at all the green shirts, I could see a community of people brought together because of something they love to do, and someone they love to train with.
It was also interesting watching guys “gas out” in person. You can’t see it so much on television. On TV, you can see their facial expressions, or they spit out a mouthpiece, or you can tell they’re breathing really hard. There must be intangibles that you get from being in the same room with someone that’s doing a physical activity… Indicators that tell you extra things about them that you can’t pick up through watching the same thing on television. It was like you could SEE less energy “on” them. The punches got slower. The movements got slower. The hands stayed lower and lower. Guys started relaxing in clinches… This one fight, the guys literally laid around for 3 rounds (15 minutes?) and then, SOMEHOW, a decision was given out even though neither one of them did ANYTHING to the other one. It was really lame, and the crowd was booing like crazy. Those guys weren’t gassed.. they were just lethargic from the opening bell.
OTOH, MOST of the fighters were doing what they came there to do. There were some really good matchups and mostly good endings to the fights. This one guy was beating the living tar out of this other guy for like 2 1/2 rounds, then he happened to get caught ONE TIME with ONE PUNCH and got knocked out COLD. I mean, COLD. You could tell he was out before his body hit the floor. It was odd, because he had been so animated the whole time, and in one split second, it was all over. He was well on his way to a victory on the cards. All that animation just STOPPED. If it hadn’t been for gravity, he would have remained in the air, stiff… shut down. They took him out on a stretcher after stabilizing his neck as a precautionary measure, but he was waving his arms before they took him out of the arena to the ambulance. That’s always a good thing…. waving arms… not ambulances. 😀
The Renzo Gracie / Carlos Newton fight went to the cards, and the judges voted for a split decision win for Renzo (Pronounced “Henzo” because of Brazilian origin). Later, the students returned to the bus and I slept the two hours it took us to get back to Manhattan. I had a great time and it was a unique experience… going to the fights with student, admirers and fans of Renzo Gracie. I’m glad Carlos invited me. 😀