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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday was a fantastic day. :D I got to meet Kfir Pravda, who was here for a few hours in NYC Friday morning awaiting his connecting flight to Israel. I was familiar with Kfir from blogging as well as our involvement with the Yahoo Videoblogging Group. We&#8217;ve had interesting discussions about the direction of online [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2008/02/09/sharing-breakfast/"></g:plusone></div><p>Yesterday was a fantastic day. :D</p>
<p>I got to meet <a target="_blank" href="http://pravdam.com/" rel="met friend">Kfir Pravda</a>, who was here for a few hours in NYC Friday morning awaiting his connecting flight to Israel.  I was familiar with Kfir from blogging as well as our involvement with the <a target="_blank" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/">Yahoo Videoblogging Group</a>.  </p>
<p><center><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/2250421249/" title="Bill Cammack &amp; Kfir Pravda by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2127/2250421249_01177d80a8.jpg" alt="Bill Cammack &amp; Kfir Pravda" width="430" height="322"></a></center></p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had interesting discussions about the direction of online video and television, but I never figured I&#8217;d meet him in person, since I had no plans to travel to Israel. </p>
<p> Fortunately, our schedules and locations coincided, and I was able to enjoy the morning with Kfir, <a target="_blank" href="http://synchronis.tv/" rel="met friend">Kathryn Jones</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://pulvertv.ning.com/" rel="met friend">Jeff Pulver</a> and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=626674662" rel="met friend">Keren Dagan</a>.</p>
<p><center><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/2251217298/" title="Jeff, Kathryn, Kfir &amp; Keren by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2369/2251217298_5933685383.jpg" alt="Jeff, Kathryn, Kfir &amp; Keren" width="430" height="322"></a></center></p>
<p>One of the benefits of social media is that you can learn about people and their ideas at your own pace.  If you see something interesting, you can bookmark their site or add them on a social network or follow them on a status update service.  The effect is that you can gain a respect for someone without ever having met them in person, or if you&#8217;re a lurker, without them ever even knowing that you exist.  I already appreciated Kfir for his ideas before I walked into &#8220;The Library&#8221; at the Regency Hotel.  The intangibles of meeting him in person amplified that appreciation.</p>
<p>As much as you might be able to tell about someone from reading their blog posts or comments, there&#8217;s much more to be gleaned from having real-time, F2F conversation with someone.  How do you greet each other?  Do you have similar senses of humor?  Is this person as sharp in a real-time, constantly-evolving conversation as they are in text, which they may have taken an hour to write, or in a video which they may have scripted or rehearsed many times before recording it?  Is this someone with whom you would probably have been friends, had the &#8220;accident of birth&#8221; placed you in the same geographical location?</p>
<p>Previously, I asked <a href="http://blog.fastcompany.com/experts/bcammack/2008/02/how_social_is_social_media.html">&#8220;How Social is &#8216;Social&#8217; Media?&#8221;</a>.  Yesterday, there was a ton of &#8220;Social&#8221; and a ton of &#8220;Media&#8221;! :D  Jeff Pulver was broadcasting live to Qik utilizing his Nokia N95 and his portable hotspot (described/shown in the video below).  </p>
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<p>I recorded a Seesmic video with my MacBook Pro.  So, not only did we share breakfast with each other, we shared &#8216;sharing breakfast&#8217; with our friends on other social media sites as well. :D</p>
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<p>This time, social media came through BIG TIME! :D  Fortunately Keren was keeping an eye on the clock, because our conversation had become three hours long with no end in sight.  There really ought to be laws against having so much fun before 2pm! :D  </p>
<p>It was a pleasure meeting Kfir &amp; Keren.  It makes such a difference when someone steps off of a blog page or computer screen and you get to experience them IRL.  It was great to hang out with Kathryn &amp; Jeff as well.  I&#8217;m going to strive to sift through the QUANTITY of consistently increasing adds and contacts and have more QUALITY interactions like this one through social media. :D</p>
<p><em><a target="_blank" href="http://BillCammack.com">Bill Cammack</a> â€¢ Cammack Media Group, LLC</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonny Goldstein interviewed me back in August 2007 on his show Jonny&#8217;s Par-Tay [link]. Looking at the countdown timer to the end of the show, around -18:00 he asks me &#8220;So&#8230; Did you feel a little lonely before you got into all the social media stuff?&#8221; to which my response was that I&#8217;m actually LESS [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2008/02/02/how-social-is-social-media/"></g:plusone></div><p>Jonny Goldstein <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jonnygoldstein.com/2007/08/08/jonnys-par-tay-with-bill-cammack-and-you-9pm-et/">interviewed me back in August 2007</a> on his show Jonny&#8217;s Par-Tay [<a target="_blank" href="http://www.jonnygoldstein.com/2007/08/08/jonnys-par-tay-with-bill-cammack-and-you-9pm-et/">link</a>].  Looking at the countdown timer to the end of the show, around -18:00 he asks me &#8220;So&#8230; Did you feel a little lonely before you got into all the social media stuff?&#8221; to which my response was that I&#8217;m actually LESS social NOW than I was before&#8230;</p>
<p>Jonny&#8217;s response was that it CAN lead to socializing, and he mentioned an instance of an IRL event, <a target="_blank" href="http://vloggercue.blogspot.com/">Vloggercue</a>, hosted by Wreck and Salvage&#8217;s <a target="_blank" href="http://wreckandsalvage.com/">Adam Quirk</a> that he was going to attend BECAUSE of the people that he met and knew because of social media.</p>
<p>While I agree that it CAN&#8230; How often *DOES* social media lead to actual social inteaction, for YOU?  My point was that I became less social instead of more social because of the fact that my friends are always at my fingertips.  For the sake of this post, I&#8217;m defining &#8220;social&#8221; as actually going somewhere to hang out with friends of mine, IRL.</p>
<p><center><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/460544892/" title="Frisbee Group, April 14 2007 by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/460544892_6c9057b331.jpg" alt="Frisbee Group, April 14 2007 by Bill Cammack" width="430"></a></center></p>
<p>Everyone sitting at that table (Grace, Rachel, Charles, Obreahny, Sandra &amp; Mike), I&#8217;m only *seconds* away from interacting with, via social media, wherever I am.  Instant messaging, status updates, texting, email, sites, forums, groups.  I did a shoot in Central Park with Obreahny and uploaded it to my server sitting out in Central Park, using the park&#8217;s wireless access.  I get footage from clients overseas via FTP, talk to them on skype or iChat and send them quicktime files for approval/changes.  I watched a live stream of PodCamp Philly from NYC and appeared on-screen @ PodCamp Boston while I was sitting in a living room in Maryland.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason for me to physically go ANYWHERE unless physically interacting with that person is the reason I&#8217;m going.  You can&#8217;t go snowboarding together unless you actually go snowboarding.  Other than that, the current state of communications enables you to be AS in-touch with someone as you want to be.  I talk to my friend <a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/CaliNative">@CaliNative</a> all day, every day.  We&#8217;re both <a target="_blank" href="http://MIT.edu">MIT Graduates</a>, but we live 3,000 miles apart from each other and never met each other IRL.  Meanwhile, there are people that have given me business cards, right here in NYC, that I never spoke to again after that particular day that we met.</p>
<p>Social media allows you to define your enviroment.  You can create and maintain relationships that transcend physical and territorial boundaries.  You can hold 5 completely separate instant message conversations at a time, which is absolutely impossible on the phone.  Does that make you MORE social?&#8230; or LESS social?  Is &#8220;social&#8221; being re-defined by technology enabling us to envision new directions?</p>
<p>I also say I&#8217;m less social because my tolerance for idiocy has plummeted. :)  I didn&#8217;t have a lot of that to BEGIN with, but when you get to pick and choose the people you interact with on the basis of their intelligence, common sense and relevance relative to what YOU find interesting or important, it becomes really tough to tolerate people talking about &#8216;nothing&#8217;, or their own agenda which has nothing to do with what you find to be valuable in life.</p>
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Anil, Mike, Justin, Debbie, Grace, Bill, Kenyatta, Eric</p>
<p>Photo Credit: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/geek-boy/455835055/">Jared Klett</a></center></p>
<p>So, yes.  Social media DEFINITELY leads to situations where we all get together and have a good time, IRL.  I think that more often, social media allows us to FEIGN getting together, which is actually *less* social than more so.</p>
<p><em><a target="_blank" href="http://BillCammack.com">Bill Cammack</a> â€¢ Cammack Media Group, LLC</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kristen &#8220;Kroosh&#8221; Crusius wrote a post the other day about what&#8217;s going on in her &#8220;Friendiverse&#8221;&#8230; her universe of friends. Her post reminded me that I had intended to comment about Robert Scoble&#8216;s videos about how social networks&#8217; &#8220;friends lists&#8221; really work. Part I of Social Graph Based Search. 14:41 minutes. Part II of Social [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2007/09/09/friends-acquaintances-contacts/"></g:plusone></div><p>Kristen <a target="_blank" href="http://kroosh.tv" rel="friend crush">&#8220;Kroosh&#8221;</a> Crusius wrote a post the other day about <a target="_blank" href="http://kroosh.tv/?p=8">what&#8217;s going on in her &#8220;Friendiverse&#8221;&#8230;</a> her universe of friends.  Her post reminded me that I had intended to comment about <a target="_blank" href="http://www.kyte.tv/channels/view.html?uri=channels/6118/47141">Robert Scoble</a>&#8216;s videos about how social networks&#8217; &#8220;friends lists&#8221; really work.</p>
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<p>Part I of Social Graph Based Search. 14:41 minutes.</a></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.kyte.tv/channels/view.html?uri=channels/6118/47146">Part II of Social Graph Based Search. 15 minutes.</a></p>
<p>And <a target="_blank" href="http://www.kyte.tv/channels/view.html?uri=channels/6118/47151">a bonus round III</a>. 6 minutes.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get around to writing that post because I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://blog.fastcompany.com/experts/bcammack/2007/09/personal_expenses.html">incredibly busy for the last two months</a>.</p>
<p>I think the term &#8220;Friends&#8221;, as automatically used by several social sites is an unfortunate and misleading label.  This is especially true when there are no other choices.  You&#8217;re forced into a binary system&#8230;. Accept or Decline&#8230; Yes or No&#8230; 1 or 0&#8230; My-Friend or Not-My-Friend.  Unfortunately, as Scoble pointed out in his videos, reality doesn&#8217;t work like that.  There are different levels and flavors of relationships between people.  Business relationships, Family relationships, Intimate relationships, Adversarial relationships&#8230;  I think <a target="_blank" href="http://linkedin.com">linkedin</a> has it right with the generic term &#8220;contact&#8221;.  How many &#8216;contacts&#8217; do you have?  They&#8217;re not (your friends) by default, nor are they (not your friends) by default.  Still, in linkedin, there are several types of business relationships, including people that you have worked with personally&#8230; people you have not worked with personally, but you trust whomever recommended them to you&#8230; people you have not worked with and you have no professional recommendations for, but you vouch for them as a person, so you are happy to recommend them to someone who&#8217;s looking to fill a position&#8230;. people you have no intention of recommending to anyone, but you will still accept them as a contact&#8230; people that you are in contact with specifically so you can set them up with other people&#8230;.. ALL of these are thrown in together under the title &#8216;contact&#8217;.</p>
<p>Because of the misnomer &#8220;friends&#8221;, some people have selected this to mean their ACTUAL friends and will only add people that they actually know.  Here, I agree with Scoble&#8217;s assertion that this is an incorrect usage of social networks.  How are you supposed to expand your circle of CONTACTS or &#8220;sphere of influence&#8221; if you limit yourself on the internet to only the people you know IRL?  How are you supposed to learn about new people that might have similar interests or ideals if you deny them connection to you?  What&#8217;s the point of being on a social site if you&#8217;re only going to get in touch with the same people you&#8217;re already in contact with?  I think that if they had levels of acquaintance on these sites, a lot more people would be connected to each other, because the categories would make sense to them.  You would be able to see at-a-glance what level each person had placed their contacts on, and make a better assessment of their actual interaction with each other.</p>
<p>Looking at it from the other direction&#8230; It&#8217;s not fair that someone that sends you a friends request out of the blue has the exact same status as someone you collaborate with or work with or highly respect or go out for drinks with or climb mountains and eat pancakes with.  Both the random person and the IRL friend are marked down as &#8220;Friend&#8221;.  There&#8217;s no meritocracy.  Even with <a target="_blank" href="http://facebook.com">facebook</a>&#8216;s relationship qualifiers, that&#8217;s a SECONDARY trait.  It&#8217;s like having everyone in your military with the rank of &#8216;Private&#8217;, and you have to go to each Private and ask them what their actual importance is in order to determine who out-ranks whom.  No.  It doesn&#8217;t work like that.  You can tell from the bars or whatever emblem on their shoulders who&#8217;s running the show and who&#8217;s going to be digging the trenches.</p>
<p>In the absence of actual distinctions, I think the best approach to accepting/rejecting social site &#8220;friends&#8221; is innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.  It&#8217;s always a good thing when you can see the applicant&#8217;s friends list in order to tell who might know them that YOU know and whose judgement you trust.  When I know certain people don&#8217;t like jerks, and those people are &#8220;friends&#8221; with someone, I&#8217;m more likely to take my ACTUAL friend&#8217;s word that this other person is cool.  That would seem to go against what I was saying earlier, because what if my friend is using the same &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; style that I am? :)  I would be accepting an untested &#8220;friend&#8221;.  However, checks &amp; balances will come into play.  If the untested person actually interacts with the community, they&#8217;ll start getting &#8220;reviews&#8221; which will help you decide whether you want to keep them as a friend or not.  Ultimately, the circle polices itself.</p>
<p>I was thinking about <a target="_blank" href="http://kroosh.tv/?p=8">Kroosh&#8217;s &#8220;Friendiverse&#8221;</a> yesterday, while I was watching <a target="_blank" href="http://b.drewolanoff.com">Drew</a>&#8216;s live stream from <a target="_blank" href="http://podcampphilly.pbwiki.com/">PodCamp Philly</a>.  It&#8217;s a much more intimate format&#8230; giving personal, &#8220;hand-written&#8221; recommendations of places to go, people to see and things to do.  I saw many people from MY Friendiverse on Drew&#8217;s stream yesterday&#8230; <a target="_blank" href="http://synchronis.tv">Kathryn</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://glitchnyc.com">Eric</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://newteevee.com/author/jacksonwest">Jackson</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://jonnygoldstein.com">Jonny</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://stevegarfield.com">Steve</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://fearlesscook.blogspot.com/">Grace</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://luminoustop.typepad.com">Charles</a>&#8230; and ran into others in the text chat who were also watching the stream.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I&#8217;ve been inspired to focus more time &amp; energy on the upper echelon of my own personal Friendiverse.  In the game called &#8220;keeping up with the net&#8221;, it&#8217;s very easy to miss out on telling the people that matter to you how cool you think they are. :)</p>
<p><em>Bill Cammack â€¢ New York City â€¢ Freelance Video Editor â€¢ <a target="_blank" href="http://alum.mit.edu/www/billcammack">alum.mit.edu/www/billcammack</a></p>
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