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Men Buy Sex

Bill Cammack — Tue, 22 May 2012 10:09:10 +0000

Here we go again. :/

HuffPo announced yesterday that more dudes are being investigated for “misconduct” because of their interactions with hookers.

First of all, that’s not “misconduct”. That’s “conduct”.

Men buy sex. Get over it.

Here’s what the article says -> huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/dea-cartagena-prostitution-secret-service_n_1534719.html

DEA Cartagena Probe: Agency Embroiled In Prostitution Scandal

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department inspector general’s office was investigating possible misconduct by two or more Drug Enforcement Administration agents in Colombia unrelated to the Secret Service incident with prostitutes at a Cartagena hotel, federal officials said Monday.

The probe began based on information provided by the Secret Service, the DEA said. The agency is making its employees available to be interviewed by investigators with the office of the Justice Department inspector general, the DEA said.

Here’s the deal… Men want women. Women want money. Men are willing to hand over money to women in order to speed up the process of getting them to spread their legs (or whatever).

Not everybody can walk into a bar and attract a woman. Some guys need to pay women to give it up. This will never change. There’s nothing to be surprised about.

Guys aren’t interested in croaking without having an exciting sex life. For that, you can stay broke (poor). There’s no reason to make money other than to attract better-quality women. If you can attract hawter chickz without making money at all, there’s no reason to do it.

(See: Artists and Rock Stars)

When a guy meets a gal in a bar, he’s not *ACTUALLY* interested in talking to her, because nobody cares how her day was or what she does for a living. He’s trying to get to the nitty-gritty and hook up with her, ASAP.

If he could do it RIGHT NOW, he would. Money tends to speed up the process of getting laid, whether that involves buying Porsches, fancy apartments, clothes, dinners, or drinks.

If “Nice shoes, let’s **** >:D” actually worked for dudes, that’s all they’d ever say to women.

This is why it’s continuously pathetic to read about this and that “scandal” that isn’t actually a scandal.

Reporting that dudes patronize hookers is like reporting that fish live in water… *NOT* like reporting that fish live OUTSIDE of water… Ain’t No Mystery.

ummmm… On top of all that.. Prostitution in Colombia is… *LEGAL*

wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Colombia

Prostitution in Colombia is legal as long as it is done in designated “tolerance zones”. [1]

Prostitution is widespread, partly due to poverty and internal displacement.[citation needed] Domestically, organized crime networks, some related to illegal armed groups, are responsible for human trafficking for sexual slavery and the armed conflict has made a large number of internal trafficking victims vulnerable.[1]

So these dudes aren’t even breaking any laws. They’re participating in, let’s call it, accelerated access to females.

If these dudes could actually pull women from how they looked or their gift of gab, nobody could say JACK to them for getting laid.. Remember “.. and the pursuit of happiness”? >:D

That’s not the real problem, though. The real problem is that people like to *FRONT* like they’re not doing things they’re obviously doing.

I’ve been saying, literally for YEARS, already, that there’s a reason why Monica was under the desk.

*SOMEBODY* has got to be under the desk.

Other than that, you can stay broke. There’s no point in having a career, or even a job, if you’re getting the same thing or less than a homeless dude.

However.. People like to front as if this isn’t the case. People like to pretend that if dudes go to countries where FOYINE chicks will give them some for a few pesos or whatever that they’re not going to JUMP at the chance.

It’s just not true. Get over it.

Men Buy Sex.

Women Sell Sex.

The sooner you realize this fact of life, the less you’ll be shocked by these so-called headlines about guys paying women for accelerated sexual access.
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Boys’ Club of America

Bill Cammack — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:54:30 +0000

Everybody knows that there are distinct and clear advantages to being a dude.

Two days ago, The USA just celebrated Equal Pay Day, for instance:

pay-equity.org/day.html

The next Equal Pay Day is Tuesday, April 17, 2012. This date symbolizes how far into 2012 women must work to earn what men earned in 2011.

Equal Pay Day was originated by the National Committee on Pay Equity (NCPE) in 1996 as a public awareness event to illustrate the gap between men’s and women’s wages.

Since Census statistics showing the latest wage figures will not be available until late August or September, NCPE leadership decided years ago to select a Tuesday in April as Equal Pay Day. (Tuesday was selected to represent how far into the work week women must work to earn what men earned the previous week.) The date also is selected to avoid avoid religious holidays and other significant events.

Because women earn less, on average, than men, they must work longer for the same amount of pay. The wage gap is even greater for most women of color.

So, off the bat, I can do the same job a woman does, for the exact same amount of time, and get paid more for it.

Keep Your Legs Closed

Recently, there have been an alarming (to me) number of situations that have been spilling the beans about the Boys’ Club to the international press.

Check out this Herb, talking to Andrea Mitchell:

YouTube Link => youtu.be/ZM6ifRq_SNg

For some reason, he felt perfectly comfortable telling a joke that you tell TO GUYS, *ABOUT* women, TO A WOMAN, on NATIONAL TELEVISION = International YouTube.

I mean, I understand that dude is a billionaire, so he doesn’t give a flying **** what women think, but C’Mon, Sunn! :/

He-Man Woman Haters Club

Next up, we have this club that’s still discriminating against people in the year 2012.

I thought this was pretty fantastic, because I thought that had been over for years, but NOPE! :D

csmonitor.com/USA/Sports/2012/0405/All-male-Augusta-National-overlooks-Virginia-Rometty.-Should-IBM-complain

Behind the scenes at this year’s Masters golf tournament is a matchup that many are watching almost as much as Tiger Woods versus the rest of the field.

The matchup is between the men-only Augusta National Golf Club – where the tournament has been played since 1933 – and critics who have been calling for a female member, particularly since 2002, when feminist Martha Burk took on the club.

The new wrinkle is that Augusta has traditionally extended membership to the CEOs of its corporate sponsors. Now, one of those sponsors, IBM, has a female CEO – one who even plays golf.

It’s an awkward moment for IBM and CEO Virginia “Ginni” Rometty as they consider what – if anything – to do about the apparent snub. Fighting the feminist cause might not be IBM’s job, say some experts, but the company might have to brace for a potential backlash if it continues its relationship with Augusta.

I personally don’t hang out with groups of dudes and no chicks, so I can’t even venture a GUESS at what their benefit is of not allowing female members.

You Mean That Wasn’t Free?

Our latest spillage of thine beans is that a bunch of dudes went to some foreign country and bought sex from a bunch of chicks, but one idiot didn’t feel like paying for it, so a bunch of them got in trouble, and already, three of them have lost their jobs:

nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html

CARTAGENA, Colombia — A Secret Service agent preparing for President Obama’s arrival at an international summit meeting and a single mother from Colombia who makes a living as a high-priced escort faced off in a room at the Hotel Caribe a week ago over how much he owed her for the previous night’s intercourse. “I tell him, ‘Baby, my cash money,’ ” the woman said in her first public comments on a dispute that would soon spiral into a full-blown scandal.

The disagreement over her price — he offered $30 for services she thought they had agreed were worth more than 25 times that — set off a tense early morning quarrel in the hallway of the luxury hotel involving the woman, another prostitute, Colombian police officers arguing on the women’s behalf and American federal agents who tried but failed to keep the matter from escalating.

On Wednesday, in a setback to the reputation of those who protect the president, the Secret Service prepared to fire one supervisor tied to the alleged misconduct with prostitutes on the Cartagena trip, the agency said in a statement. Another supervisor has decided to retire, and a third employee will be allowed to resign, the statement said. Eight other employees remain under investigation.

“These guys have the clearest cases,” said a government official briefed on the investigation, referring to the three who are being pushed out.

The employees under scrutiny have been asked to take lie detector tests; only one has agreed to do so, the official said. The supervisor who is being fired has threatened to sue, Mark Sullivan, the director of the Secret Service, has told officials.

Now.. This situation is very funny. :D

It’s funny because even though men know that men buy sex every day of life, they can’t admit that they know this or they would be spilling the beans about the Boys’ Club.

Basically, the rules are “Do whatever you want, until you get caught, and then we’re all going to act like y’all are renegade anomalies and we’re nothing like you.”

Personally, I have nothing to do with prostitutes and never have.

This has nothing to do with ethics.

I think that if a chick feels like selling ass and a dude is willing to buy it, that’s good for them, and I hope they enjoy themselves and have fun stories to tell after the fact.

For me, women actually like me, so I don’t have to pay women for sex, never have, and probably never will.

Paying a chick for sex would be like paying her to mop the floor = not erotic.

Since the only reason you’re talking to her is to eventually engage in some sort of erotic episode with her, it’s best that you don’t do (no pun intended) anti-climactic things with her, such as negotiate with her for how much money you’re going to owe her for spreading her legs or opening her mouth.

*YAWN*

So, I have nothing against dudes that actually get something out of buying hookers, but if that’s how you’re going to live your life, remember to *PAY* after you *PLAY*.

If dude would have just paid this chick what she says they agreed to (he says he was drunk when they negotiated the price, which is *HIS* problem, not hers), none of these dudes would have gotten in trouble and/or fired.

Unfortunately for him, she saw herself as a high-priced “Escort”, and he saw her as a foreign whore, so there was no way he was upping American Escort money to a Colombian Hooker.

nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html

There was a language gap between the woman, 24, who declined to give her full name, and the American man who sat beside her at the bar and eventually invited her to his room. She agreed, stopped on the way to buy condoms but told him he would have to give her a gift. He asked how much. Not knowing he worked for Mr. Obama but figuring he was a well-heeled foreigner, she said, she told him $800.

The price alone, she said, indicates she is an escort, not a prostitute. “You have higher rank,” she said. “An escort is someone who a man can take out to dinner. She can dress nicely, wear nice makeup, speak and act like a lady. That’s me.”

By 6:30 the next morning, after being awoken by a telephone call from the hotel front desk reminding her that, under the hotel’s rules for prostitutes, she had to leave, whatever deal the two had agreed on had broken down. She recalled that the man told her he had been drunk when they discussed the price. He countered with an offer of 50,000 pesos, the equivalent of about $30.

Disgusted with such a low amount, she pressed the matter. He became angry, ordered her out of the room and called her an expletive, she said.

She said she was crying and went across the hall, where another escort had spent the night with an American man from the same group. Both women began trying to get the money.

The other funny thing about this is that prostitution is legal where this occurred, so instead of the hooker being SOL, she actually *COULD* step to the cops and tell them that this gringo refused to pay for the sex he already got and had agreed to a price for.

She ended up settling for $250, which is way less than she wanted, and way more than he had originally offered, but the damage was already done by then.

Baby, My Cash Money! :O

oh.. wait… Here’s another account, from the Daily News! :D

nydailynews.com/news/national/colombian-hooker-center-secret-service-scandal-fight-800-agent-promised-article-1.1063676

Rep. Peter King (R-L.I.) said the agent who was fired is fighting his dismissal. “He’s suing the agency and fighting to stay,” he said.

King did not know if that agent was the one who kicked off the brouhaha by stiffing one of the 20 hookers hired by the frolicking G-men.

Eight other Secret Service operatives remain on administrative leave. Their security clearances have been stripped.

The call girl at the heart of the scandal is a dark-haired stunner who goes by the name Tania and was humiliated when an agent gave her only $28 for the night, according to the cabbie who drove her home.

“He only gave her 50,000 pesos ($28) for a cab ride, because he thought he had already paid her,” Jose Pena told The News.

She told Pena, “This never happened to me before. I feel so embarrassed.”

Pena said the raven-haired 5’-4” escort was one of a group of girls the agents picked up very late at a club and took back to the Hotel Caribe — but not before she stopped to buy condoms.

The agents have told investigators they didn’t realize the scantily clad ladies lavishing attention on them were prostitutes until it was too late.

“Most of them said they didn’t know until they got back to their rooms that they were hookers,” a source said.

After the wild night, Tania told the cabbie her agent was still drunk in the morning, when he belligerently kicked her out of his hotel room and locked the door.

“I tell him, ‘Baby, my cash money,’” she told the New York Times.

She said she banged fruitlessly on the door and then went to another agent’s room to summon one of her friends.

A group of hookers, Secret Service agents and local cops gathered in the hotel hallway arguing as the original agent remained behind his locked door.

Eventually, the other agents gathered $225 in dollars and pesos for Tania, who agreed to leave, Pena said.

Tania is a 24-year-old single mother who takes pride in being an escort — and not a hooker.

She typically pockets $800 for a “date” – and that she had told the agent in advance that’s what she cost.

Now, the Daily News isn’t the most reliable of sources, haha but you get the picture.

What do you mean “You didn’t know they were hookers”? o_O

What game did you kick that got her to agree to leave the bar/club, get in a cab with you, go buy condoms, come back with you to your hotel and give you a “Happy Ending”?

What gift of gab did you use that you felt you had gotten this chick to come home with you for free?

Did you get a clue when your boys were chipping in for the sex YOU just had? :D hahaha

Did you get a clue when there was a team of hookers outside your door, instead of the one you just kicked out? :D

This is why I’m saying this is so funny. The stories obviously don’t add up, but they *WOULD*, if dudes would just admit to the Boys’ Club.

Notice how none of the other hookers had monetary disputes?.. By some accounts, there were up to 20 of them brought back to that hotel that night, but forget about that.. If there were only the 4 prostitutes outside dude’s door, telling him to up the money, that means that 3 of them successfully completed their transactions with his homeboys.

Notice also how this situation would never have been revealed if the chick hadn’t complained to the cops that dude didn’t pay her what she thought her ***** was worth?

And then, people want to go around claiming this is an odd, one-off occurrence.

What’s even funnier is that everybody wants to call this “Bad Behavior”, as they attempt to distance themselves from what guys do every single day of life = pay women to give it up.

Membership Has Its Privileges

Several years ago, I went to visit a friend at her business office, and she introduced me to this guy I had never seen before in life, whom I gathered was footing part of the bill for the office space (read: he was tappin’ that).

We all hung out in their office that day, and then she needed to go do something, and I was chatting with the dude.

He made some outlandish remarks about her that I can’t even remember, because I was (at the time) so surprised that he was talking to me about the gal that I had come there to see, as if he and I were the long-time friends, and she was the third party.

I ended up not saying anything to her about what he said, because it seemed to me they were physically involved, and I wasn’t interested in exacerbating the situation, especially since she also relied on him for office space.

Also, it wasn’t anything that would have affected her health or well-being, or else I would have definitely let her know.

But the point was that we’re both guys.

There are lots of things guys tell other guys that they won’t tell women, regardless of what level of relationship they claim to have with them.

I’m finding this trend of bean-spilling to be strange, and I wonder if there’s an overall reason for it, or if these are merely unrelated incidents that have been occurring lately.

These aren’t gaffes, and they aren’t unforced errors… It seems that dudes are so comfortable with the Boys’ Club that they don’t give a damn if women find out about it, because there’s nothing they can do about it anyway.

It’s weird.. It’s like dudes are mentally regressing to when women didn’t have any jobs or money or could own property or create a business, and just had to sit around at their houses, hoping a suitor wanted to give them a worthwhile life instead of them becoming an “old maid” with a bunch of cats and knitting yarn.

I don’t see what the value is in paying an equally-competent woman 76 cents on the dollar, compared to a guy. (nationalpartnership.org/site/DocServer/wf.epd.factsheet.NY.pdf)

I don’t see what the value is in telling a woman a joke about women keeping their legs closed as an effective form of birth control.

I don’t see what the value is in keeping a woman with a more prestigious job than you have, and who makes more money than you do, from being a member of your club.

The Dog Stays.. You Go.

Bill Cammack — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:39:12 +0000

Pets

Women tend to overestimate their position on the totem pole relative to other aspects of men’s lives, such as their cars, friends and pets.

Think about it.. If a dude has had a dog for like 20 years and then a gal shows up and tries to regulate, talkin’ ’bout he has to get rid of the dog, she might find her bags packed and waiting for her at the door after he hits it one last time.

Speaking of which, if dude hasn’t hit it yet, she has no pull, whatsoever. He can get a new woman that he ISN’T having sex with, immediately. He can’t get a new beloved pet, so she might have to take a long walk on a short plank.

Ultimatums

While we’re on the subject, the same thing goes for women that he knows.

It will never cease to amaze me that women watch these Lifetime cable channel movies and chick flicks and then believe that they can tell a grown-ass man whom he can and can’t spend time with. :D

If he feels like appeasing you, he’ll tell you yeah yeah yeah and then keep doing what he always did before he met you.

It’s amazing that some women actually believe that now that they’re hooking up with a guy, that gives them some kind of authority to regulate his life. It’s even MORE AMAZING that their grown-ass-woman homegirls commiserate with them and tell them that they’re right for trying to control the dude and he’s wrong for not accepting her control.

You would swear that Little House On The Prarie was real. It was FICTION, ladies! :D hahaha A STORY! :D

On top of that, LHotP was hypothetically located…. wait for it…. ON. THE. PRARIE! :D haha Not in some metropolitan area where you can just get another chick if one of them becomes more of a hassle than she’s worth.

If there’s something that’s bothering her, OF COURSE she should bring it up and debate it and put her foot down about things she doesn’t like and things she’s not going to stand for… However.. When she does that, she needs to be prepared in case he says “You’re right. That’s not fair. Bounce. I’ll date some other chick.”

See, that’s what happens with ultimatums. They don’t always go the way the person making the threat wants them to go. This is why it’s important to focus on reality, as opposed to movie-based and tupperware-party-supported fantasies about how relationships work.

Unless she knows she has something that he does NOT want to live without, an ultimatum merely forces a guy to make a choice.. A choice between two VALID options. Select “Her” or “Not-Her”.

If the choice is between a woman he’s been dating for 3 months and a woman he’s known and appreciated for 3 years, the girlfriend might find herself singing “Yo Ho Ho And A Bottle Of Rum” while she takes that long walk on that short plank.

Control

On top of that.. If a woman can control her man, so can anybody else. o_O

There’s nothing in particular about her brand of control that supersedes anyone else’s version, so if she forbids him to go to the strip club, and he’s like “ok”, and then his boys say let’s go the strip club, he’ll say “ok”, then the stripper will ask him if he wants a lap dance in the champagne room, and he’ll say “ok”.

Xena: No Sex In The Champagne Room
YouTube Link => youtu.be/VeHlXlmPzTo

So either you’re controlling someone who’s easily controllable, or he’s faking you out by pretending to follow your orders and then living his life as usual.

This is why women are surprised when they find out “their man” is still screwing his ex. They think they’ve exerted some kind of control over him that requires him to tell the truth. They think that something they’ve done has made him disinterested in having sex with other women.. including their cousins, sisters and mothers.

It’s just not true.

In most cases, guys will ELECT not to pursue hookups with other women, because they respect the relationship they’re in, or they’re already doing everything sexual they want to do with their current girlfriend/wife/FWB/whatever, or they’re not the type of person to go back on their word, or “cheat”. That’s a CHOICE they’re making, though. It’s not some kind of natural state that they’re forced into by some gal they’re dating.

Some guys are naturally monogamous and want to be. If that’s the case, AGAIN, it has nothing to do with the woman. She didn’t MAKE him monogamous, she just happened to find and date a man that already was.

That’s why I always shake my head when women ask “How do I get him to _____”. You don’t have any actual control over him. Your best bet is to be the best woman you can towards him, let him know what YOU’RE interested in as far as the relationship, and hope that a) he gives a damn what you want, and b) he’s willing and able to do that for you.

Sharing

We already went over this in “The Roster (Multiple Girlfriends)”, but basically, it’s easy for women to get ON the roster. It’s tougher for women to make it to THE TOP of the roster. It’s a major accomplishment to actually REMOVE OTHER WOMEN from the roster and achieve an exclusive relationship with a sought-after guy.

This is because there is a plateau of achievement. There’s no actual peak, until and unless the cream rises to the top and a dude is just blown away by his experiences with a gal.. or, as I said earlier, he’s naturally the type of person that only wants one girlfriend and is currently auditioning and hoping to settle soon.

Women, who like to believe what they watch in movies, and the stories they hear from their mothers and older women (who, of course, were TOLD, regardless of the reality of the situation, that they were in an exclusive relationship, or else dude would never have had the sex that produced this daughter in the first place), think the process goes from dating to exclusive girlfriend to fiancée to wife.

In fact, they’ve skipped a step.

It goes dating -> one of my girlfriends -> my only girlfriend -> fiancée -> wife.

This is what’s confusing to women, when they make it to the “one of my girlfriends” stage that they don’t believe exists.

They wonder why dude is treating them like a girlfriend, but he’s not trying to verbally declare them exclusive.

This is where women screw themselves, because instead of easing back and sharing him with the other women until dude makes up his mind (assuming he plans to EVAR make up his mind) and selects her of his own free will, they start wondering how they can MAKE HIM dump the other chicks, or his friends, or his pets, or his job, or his dreams….

So, right when women are in position to MAAAAAYBE make it to the next phase, they make a nuisance of themselves and get bounced off the roster.

Supplements

The women you can have a good and enjoyable time with, stay.
The women that try to get you to trade them something in order for them to act the way they’re supposed to act in the first place, go.

Stay in the pocket. Make yourself useful. Be a cheerful person. Make sure you always look good. Be the type of woman that he wants to wake up to in the morning, and you “might could” get the Golden Ticket.

Once you try to overpower or outsmart a grown-ass man into restricting his personal options in the one life he’s going to have to live, so that you can feel better about yourself because you feel like you have control over someone, you’re starting yourself on that long walk, and the only question is how short the plank is.

If you try to come between a dude and his dog, you may just find out that regardless of what he told you while he was trying to get laid, the dog’s more important than you are.

Guys don’t have to lie to dogs. Dogs don’t understand English. We lie to women.

We lie to women to increase y’all’s functionality and usefulness.

One of those lies might be “You’re more important than my dog.”

Another lie might be “I only go to my ex’s house so I can see my dog.”

I guess the point is that women need to see themselves as supplements to the happiness in men’s lives, not replacements for our happiness.

You don’t get to suck everything good out of our lives so you can feel better about your own. Ain’t that type-a party.

If there’s something you don’t like about your relationship, talk about it.. discuss it, have a debate about it, make demands if you feel you’ve got it like that. If you don’t like what you hear, try again some other time, or bounce from the relationship. You most DEFINITELY shouldn’t remain in a relationship that you’re not enjoying, or where you feel you could do better for yourself.

What I’m saying is, don’t fall for your own okey-doke that dude will definitely forsake his beloved dog, cat, snake, owl, or lizard for you.

If you decide to make an argument out of it, while dogs don’t know English, they know the vocal tones that usually lead to “Welp.. I won’t be seeing THIS CHICK around here, anymore! :D haha Don’t let the door HIT’CHA where the Good Lord SPLIT’CHA! :D”

Then again, of course, you might be successful! :D hehe You might actually strongarm him into choosing you over his pet. Congratulations to you, and good luck with that! :D

Keep. Your. Legs. Closed.

Bill Cammack — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:35:42 +0000

You have *GOT* to see this video, JUST so you can listen to and watch Andrea Mitchell after this dude tells her this joke! :D

YouTube Link => youtu.be/ZM6ifRq_SNg

In case you don’t want to watch it yourself, this is what he said! :D

“And this contraceptive thing, my gosh, it’s such inexpensive.. You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception.. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly. :D”

Now.. When I saw this happen, live, I missed what happened, because I didn’t expect dude to be telling a joke. I thought he was trying to tell us something about when he owed Moses a quarter from the olden days, so my mind was racing to figure out what he was saying.

I was thinking too much after he said “They used Bayer aspirin for contraception”, because I was like “HOW IN THE **** DID THEY DO THAT? :D” and I totally missed that he was saying that in order to hold Bayer aspirin between her legs, a woman had to KEEP. HER. LEGS. CLOSED!

I figured it out when Andrea started choking up, and had this “oh no he di’int! :O” look on her face! :D

C’Mon, Sunn! :/

This situation is VERY FUNNY on a lot of levels, but I’m going to focus on the fact that dude either *FORGOT* he was speaking to a female, or he didn’t give a flying **** that he was speaking to a female, and just blurted out something guys usually only say to other guys.

That’s not a joke for “mixed company” (meaning women present), much less something to say on national/international television that’s going to go directly to YouTube and sit there forever.

The reason I wanted to talk about this, and the reason it’s in the Dating category instead of the Politics category is that this is a beautiful example of what I’ve been telling y’all for years already…

Regardless of so-called Political Correctness, the game hasn’t changed one iota.

Not one bit.

Not at all.

This is why some women think my blog is harsh… It’s because I realize that there are two different conversations going on.. The conversations that guys have with guys, and the conversations guys have with gals.

Until women recognize that there *IS* a difference, we can’t have an intelligent conversation about male/female relations and relationships, because you’re not seeing the playing field properly, and my explanations aren’t going to make any sense to you unless you can see things from my side, which is the side THAT COUNTS, because you’re trying to relate to men and failing because you don’t understand that you’re receiving half-truths from us at best.

That dude’s no spring chicken. It isn’t like he thought it was funny on the playground to pull a girl’s pigtail.

He knows that joke goes over *BIG* every time he tells it on the golf course or at the country club, because he’s only talking to guys, and they all agree with him or pretend to agree with him so they don’t look like suckers.

What he did was give away trade secrets about what a lot of guys think about women and their ability/right to decide what goes on with their own bodies, but refuse to say, because they can’t afford to be seen as Not Politically Correct.

He can afford it because he’s rich already and is never going to run out of money, so who gives a **** what YOU think? :D

Most guys that are involved in the dating game don’t have that same leisurely attitude towards offending women, because they’re trying to actually get laid.

This is the ‘problem’ that’s being illustrated here… What dudes think about you and what they tell you to your face are usually two different things.

Instead of just getting mad at dudes for saying stuff like this, I suggest that y’all females absorb this as a “teaching moment”.. Isn’t that what Oprah calls them? :D

Buy A Vowel

What’s great about this video is the same thing that was great about Jersey Shore when it first started. :D

I had been telling women for years about what really happens when guys hit the streets to “get girls”, and y’all didn’t want to believe me! :D

When they finally decided to create and air Jersey Shore, I was able to point out, in videos that all my readers could view with their own eyes, dudes making out with multiple chicks simultaneously, dudes hooking up with chicks at the club and then crawling into bed with their girlfriends after slapping five with their homeboys who are keeping their secrets for them, dudes talking about women like dogs after kicking them out at 6am after sex, guys that aren’t around women AT ALL until it’s time to try to get laid…

A lot of what’s confusing to women about dealing with and especially attempting to date men is that if we really told you what we were really thinking, you’d be like :O and our opportunity to get some would evaporate.

Does this mean that ALL guys do this? Of course not. :) Some do, though, so by excluding this mentality from your set of possibilities, you’re doing yourself a disservice and may never end up on top of the game.

Until you realize that there are guys that believe that women keeping their legs closed is the answer to the need for contraception, you’ll be at a disadvantage.

Until you realize that there are dudes that will tell you all sorts of flowery things and then dump you after sex, you’ll be at a disadvantage.

Until you realize that there are men that think women’s ability/right to decide what happens to their own bodies is a joke, you’ll be at a disadvantage.

So, Wake up. Get a clue. Buy a vowel.

Just because it’s 2012 doesn’t mean people believe the same things.

If you ask your man if you should be in the kitchen making him a sandwich, he’s gonna say “NO, HONEY!!! :D NO WAY!!! :D”, while he may very well be imagining you, only wearing construction boots, making him a turkey & swiss. >:D
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Platonic Relationships

Bill Cammack — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:55:48 +0000

Platonic Relationships

Here’s a fun video about why men and women can’t be “just friends”:

YouTube Link => youtu.be/T_lh5fR4DMA

Granted.. It’s easy to skew a video like this by asking 100 gals and 100 guys if they believe men and women can be “just friends” and then only airing the responses from the gals that say “Yes” and the guys that say “No”.

Regardless, I think the video points out something interesting about so-called “Platonic Relationships”.

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/platonic
2b : of, relating to, or being a relationship marked by the absence of romance or sex

If you Google “Platonic Relationships” you don’t get anything.. Other than probably this article, once I post it.

I was surprised by this, because as much as chicks yammer about platonic relationships, I would have thought there would be a plethora of articles and definitions of this situation that they believe exists.

Two Decisions, Not One

The problem that I have with the concept of platonic relationships is that relationships are defined by the individual, not by the couple.

They seem to be defined by the couple, because one person says to the other person “Let’s go steady” or “Will you wear my ring” or some other nonsense that indicates that they intend to exclusively date the other person, and then he or she agrees to enter this verbal agreement that they’re now “together” or “an item”.

In fact, that’s not ONE agreement, but rather TWO agreements by TWO individuals.

Both people have verbally agreed to be exclusive with each other (whatever that means to each one of them). If one of them decides they’re no longer exclusive, they don’t require the consent of the other person to hook up with someone else.

If it had been an agreement which required both people to begin it, it would have also required both people to end it. Capisce? :D

In the video.. Whether it was doctored or not.. What you saw was a bunch of females saying they believed that men and women can be “just friends” and a bunch of males saying Hellz Naw! :D

Lindsey Chen and I discussed the basics of this situation back in 2008, in “Does He Want To Be Friends?”.

Basically, there are three situations where a guy is actually “Just Friends” with a gal.

He doesn’t find her sexually attractive
He shares things in common with her that make him friends with her the same way he would be friends with a guy
He has a better use for her that will no longer be available to him if he hits it.. Money, Food, Her better-looking girlfriends and female family members, Whatever..

The first one is the main one. If a guy doesn’t wanna tap that, we can be friends forever. :D

However.. If he’s not physically/sexually attracted to her, she actually has to have something about her personality or what she does in her daily life that’s of interest to him if he’s going to spend time with her at all. She no longer gets the chick modifier and will be scrutinized on the same level as if he were choosing a male friend to spend time with.

Of course, this is a much higher standard. This is why you see a lot of tomboys with a lot of male friends. The women are actually considered “one of the fellaz” because of how they carry themselves and what they’re bringing to the table, personality-wise. You don’t see a lot of girly-girls with a bunch of male friends, because nobody’s actually trying to have them hanging around unless we’re scheming on them. >:D

#3 is self-explanatory.. What’s the point of hooking up with ONE chick when you can become “Just Friends” with her and gain access to all of her homegirls? >:D

Also.. What’s the point of hooking up with a chick that’s a client of yours and take the chance that she’ll get all emotional about nothing and jack up your cash flow, when you could remain in a “platonic relationship” with her and use all the extra money you get to court other women? >:D

That’s not what we saw in the video. What we saw was women saying men and women CAN be “just friends” and men saying men and women CAN NOT be “just friends”.

What percentage of that population do you think overlaps?.. How many women are currently in platonic relationships with men that aren’t in platonic relationships with them? o_O

Same Word, Different Meaning

Women define “platonic relationships” as “We don’t have sex with each other”.

Men define “platonic relationships” as “I haven’t hit it yet”.

You see the problem here? :) The only way the relationship is *ACTUALLY* platonic is if BOTH PEOPLE agree that they don’t want to have sex with each other, but women think that just because THEY aren’t thinking about hooking up with the guy, he isn’t thinking about hooking up with them either.

This is why it’s so funny in the video when dude finally asks the chicks “Do you think XYZ dude would hit it if you let him?” and then they look all confused, because this is the first time they’re even thinking about it.

It’s funny because the guy has been thinking about having sex with her every time he was around her, but he knew that he needed to play the “friend” role to stay in the pocket until he could get on.

So.. How is that relationship actually platonic, when all it takes is for the chick to get horny one time, or mad at her boyfriend, or drunk, and then all of a sudden, she wants to give her “friend” some, and he’s down to hit it? \o/

It isn’t.

Ladies.. Here’s how you test whether you’re in a platonic relationship or not:

Ask him “Would you have sex with me?”
Ask him “Why not?”

Of course, this is purely hypothetical. :D

No guy in his right mind is going to admit to you that he’d hit it, and if he wouldn’t, he’s not going to tell you the truth about WHY he wouldn’t.

However.. In theory.. That is how you would find out.

Theoretically, He’d either respond “Yeah.. You could get it”, or some variation of “You don’t have enough ass to turn me on” or “Ain’t that type-a party” or “I value you for your mind, not your body” or “Aren’t you kind of nerdy to be having sex?” or something that would describe the reasons why he hasn’t hit it yet, and whether or not he’s planning to get with you in the future.

Other than that, you are *NOT* in a platonic relationship if the dude’s actually attracted to you, because the first time you spread your legs, he’s goin’ in. >:D

2 minutes into the video, this chick says “That was one instance”, hahaha What about that, Ladies? :D

What happens after you give your “just friend” some one time? Are you STILL in a “platonic” relationship? o_O

See what I mean? It’s all bogus, like how chicks wear white wedding gowns when they know they’ve been giving it up ever since dude bought them the engagement ring.

Everybody knows he hit it before the honeymoon.. Took it for a test drive or a thousand…

This just makes the situation worse, when women that know damned well that they’re *NOT* in platonic relationships with dudes play it off like they are so they don’t get stigmatized as a slut, which is a different ridiculous topic…

So, No.. Unless a dude HONESTLY doesn’t want to have sex with a chick, he isn’t in a platonic relationship with her. Period.

Even in the situations where he forgoes acting on natural his impulses to gain other things from her, that’s not removing his desire to hit it. He’s just trading that in for a goal that he perceives to be more valuable, such as more girls or more money.

Can Men & Women Be Friends?

Having said all that.. My friend Shauna mentioned that the video doesnt really explicitly state why men and women can’t be friends.

She’s right about that.

There are actually two different definitions of “Friends” that are going around. One of them means “I like this person and enjoy spending time with them”, and the other one means “I would not have sex with this person under any circumstances”.

When women say “He’s a friend of mine”, they mean “I haven’t had sex with him and will never have sex with him between this moment right now and when I finally croak”.

When men say “She’s a friend of mine”, they mean “I’ll hit it whenever she’s in the mood, but until that time, she’s nice to look at, so I’ll keep chillin’ with her”.

So.. While it’s absolutely true that there are LOTS of actual and honest friendships between men and women, that only means that they mutually enjoy each other’s company.. Not that dude wouldn’t hook up with her.

Whether that particular relationship is platonic or not depends on how BOTH PEOPLE feel about hooking up with each other, *NOT* that they haven’t had sex YET and that every time she defines their relationship as platonic to other people, he readily agrees, knowing that if he doesn’t, the jig will be up, and all this time he’s spent pretending to be her friend will have been wasted. >:D
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