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		<description><![CDATA[What is a Cougar? How come this dating term only applies to females and not to males who exhibit the same behaviors? Definition According to Wikipedia, a Cougar is &#8220;a woman, 40 years of age or older, who pursues younger men, typically more than eight years her junior. The term is also commonly applied to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2010/08/22/cougar-vs-milf/"></g:plusone></div><p>What is a Cougar?  How come this dating term only applies to females and not to males who exhibit the same behaviors? <span id="more-8793"></span></p>
<h3>Definition</h3>
<p>According to Wikipedia, a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cougar_(woman)#Slang_terms" rel="nofollow">Cougar</a> is &#8220;a woman, 40 years of age or older, who pursues younger men, typically more than eight years her junior.  The term is also commonly applied to women that are thirty or older.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is clearly a corny &#038; simpe viewpoint.  <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cougar" rel="nofollow">Urban Dictionary</a> has some more definitions for us:</p>
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<li>An older woman who frequents clubs in order to score with a much younger man. The cougar can be anyone from an overly surgically altered wind tunnel victim, to an absolute sad and bloated old horn-meister, to a real hottie or MILF. Cougars are gaining in popularity &#8212; particularly the true hotties &#8212; as young men find not only a sexual high, but many times a chick with her **** together.</li>
<li>(see also hunt, prowl, corner, pounce). Noun. A 35+ year old female who is on the &#8220;hunt&#8221; for a much younger, energetic, willing-to-do-anything male. The cougar can frequently be seen in a padded bra, cleavage exposed, propped up against a swanky bar in San Francisco (or other cities) waiting, watching, calculating; gearing up to sink her claws into an innocent young and strapping buck who happens to cross her path. &#8220;Man is cougar&#8217;s number one prey&#8221;</li>
<li>An attractive woman in her 30&#8242;s or 40&#8242;s who is on the hunt once again. She may be found in the usual hunting grounds: nightclubs, bars, beaches, etc. She will not play the usual B.S. games that women in their early twenties participate in. End state, she will be going for the kill, just like you. Associated with MILFs.</li>
<li>A woman in her sexual prime who prefers to hunt rather than be hunted. A cougar&#8217;s victims are usually under 25, as cougars prefer to mate with men who still have hair. Cougars generally feed and then continue hunting, as they enjoy role reversal.</li>
<li>A Cougar is a female, usually between thirty and fifty years-old, who enjoys the sexual company of younger men. Cougars are only usually interested in men under the age of twenty-five. Also, Cougars are non-committal, choosing to move from mate to mate without ever settling down. It is not uncommon for the same Cougar to attack (sleep with) many different men in the same group of friends. Furthermore, Cougars are older and more practiced in the ways of snaring a mate so they will rarely broadcast their intentions to sleep with you until you are already in her Jetta, headed for the condo she just bought. It is this elusive behavior that earns her the name “Cougar.”</li>
<li>Hot and sexy older woman, usually in her 40s or 50s, single or married, who is sick of her same-age counterparts which are usually hairless, have big guts, who only talk about their insurance premiums and have the TV remote control attached to their hands. Cougars are attractive, in their sexual prime, who know what they want and aren&#8217;t afraid to go after it. BIG misconception is that they dress cheap, wear hot pink nail polish, animal skin prints and are not-so-attractive old-looking hags with bleached hair (Yeah those women exist, but they are NOT cougars). True cougars are classy, beautiful creatures who have made their successes on their own, have real brains, usually with expensive cars/homes, and are real head turners. Cougars seek younger men, and don&#8217;t have to sneak up and attack&#8230;they know their younger mates are eager to get an experienced woman who won&#8217;t ask if they&#8217;ll call them the next day. Being a cougar is a positive thing.</li>
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<p>Did you notice how this is like a crime scene where everyone has a different description of the perp? :D</p>
<p>She was 35.. No.. She was 50&#8230;<br />
She was rich.. No.. She was broke&#8230;<br />
She looked busted.. No.. She looked HAWT!!! :D</p>
<p>For the purpose of this discussion, I&#8217;m going to define a Cougar as a female that&#8217;s older than the male she&#8217;s kickin&#8217; it to who has uncommon advantages over that male that she&#8217;s not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to have.</p>
<p>We need to keep the &#8220;older than&#8221; component, or the concept isn&#8217;t any fun.  If you get served by a chick your age or younger, she was just smarter than you and your life sucks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to toss the &#8220;how much money she has&#8221; component and the &#8220;whether she looks good or not&#8221; component as those aren&#8217;t going to be primary issues during the locker-room talk debriefing the next day with his boys.  As soon as he mentions that he hooked up with an older chick, the conversation could potentially stall there indefinitely as he attempts to explain why and save face in front of his friends who are dying to call him &#8220;desperate&#8221;.</p>
<p>The age component needs to be dropped lower because those mid-western grade-school teachers that keep getting busted for being in love with their 14-year-old (happy as HELL to get laid!!! :D) students already qualify as Cougars in their late 20&#8242;s.</p>
<p>So we need for the Cougar to be older, except we also need for her to have uncommon advantages in the relationship.  Otherwise, she qualifies as a MILF, which is a similar, yet completely different fetish category.</p>
<h3>MILFs</h3>
<p>The acronym MILF stands for Mother I&#8217;d Like to ****.  It&#8217;s a technically incorrect term because nobody cares whether the older chick has kids or not.  The concept is more that she&#8217;s old enough to have kids or maybe that the way she looks, you would say &#8220;She&#8217;s old enough to be my mother&#8221; even though she might only be 5 years older than you are.</p>
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<p>MILFs don&#8217;t have any advantages in relationships.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re just like regular females except they were born before you were.  You don&#8217;t need to apply any special tactics for them.  Actually, you can do even less as you imagine them to be relatively desperate and hungry for some male action.</p>
<p>MILFs are a fetish category because they&#8217;re not supposed to still be in The Game.  They&#8217;re supposed to have had all the sex they&#8217;re going to have in their lives and now, their function is being somebody&#8217;s mother or a secretary or something.</p>
<p>The problem with this theory is that women supposedly peak sexually in their 30&#8242;s, so even though their looks might be way past their prime, they&#8217;re way more DTF <em>(Down To ****)</em> than younger girls who are still playing stupid games and frontin&#8217; like they don&#8217;t want to hook up with you when you know that they&#8217;re dying to give you some.</p>
<p>So, a MILF is an older woman that you&#8217;re not supposed to be able to have sex with, but somehow you do.. Like, you go to some chick&#8217;s house to take her out to the club and she got stuck at the library studying so her mother invites you wait for her inside and you happen to hook up with the moms, probably including all sorts of stuff that her daughter wouldn&#8217;t have done for you anyway.</p>
<p>Or.. Maybe you decide to do your laundry late at night and this older gal is the only one in the laundromat and one thing leads to another&#8230;</p>
<p>These qualify as MILF encounters&#8230; Regular stuff, except it just so happens that the gal&#8217;s older than you are.</p>
<h3>Cougars</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120703/" rel="nofollow"><img alt="Cougar or MILF?" title="Cougar or MILF?" width="300" style="float:left" src="http://blogs.centrictv.com/shows/oncentric/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/how-stella-got-her.jpg"></a>A cougar, OTOH, is making moves from her own personal power.  You have to imagine a <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120703/" rel="nofollow">Stella trying to get her Groove Back</a>.</p>
<p>The Cougar knows what she wants and she knows how to get it.  There&#8217;s an empty space she&#8217;s trying to fill&#8230; She&#8217;s looking to add an element to her already HAPPENIN&#8217; lifestyle.</p>
<p>Unfortunately.. Unless you know how to tell the difference, a Cougar looks just like a MILF and you <em>might could</em> get caught slippin&#8217;. :D</p>
<p>It might be a part of her game plan to play that submissive &#8220;Oh.. I do declare!.. I think this whippersnapper&#8217;s trying to have sex with me! :O&#8221; role because she doesn&#8217;t want to scare you off by saying &#8220;Let&#8217;s get out of here&#8221; or asking you to accompany her to the bathroom of the bar and then locking both of y&#8217;all inside.</p>
<p>The trick to the Cougar is that &#8220;She don&#8217;t need you.. She&#8217;ll let the welfare feed you.&#8221;.. The tricks that usually work on women will actually leave you in a worse position than if you hadn&#8217;t tried to use them.</p>
<p>Declarations of love and promises of long-term relationships don&#8217;t have the pantie-dropping effect they&#8217;re supposed to.  She&#8217;s not looking for Mr. Right.. She&#8217;s looking for Mr. Right Now. >:D</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also easy to miss it entirely when a Cougar propositions you because the way some of them press up is so subtle and slick.  For instance, they might use the typical guy&#8217;s trick of feigning interest in your business so you have to.. what?.. Give her your business card.</p>
<p>After that, you need to talka about the business, right?.. Which is usually best discussed over what?.. Dinner. O_o</p>
<p>Of course, you need to meet at the restaurant&#8217;s bar before dinner, which leads to what?.. Drinks&#8230;</p>
<p>Next thing you know, you&#8217;ve gone on a full-fledged DATE with her and you can&#8217;t even accuse her of having asked you out! :D</p>
<h3>So What?</h3>
<p>What difference does any of this make?  How come we need a special term for this behavior?</p>
<p>Cougars do what they want to do when they want to do it.  If this attitude somehow permeated the female population, it would be a complete disaster for guys trying to get laid.</p>
<p>Sometimes, the only leverage you have is that she wants you to spend money on her or take her dancing or buy her a house.. The only carrot you have to dangle in front of her face is how much better her life will be if she hooks up with you.  Take that away, and women would only give it up to guys they actually thought were sexy, and society as we know it goes down the tubes. :D</p>
<p>Once you label the behavior, you can convince people that it&#8217;s a deviant lifestyle and eventually even prescribe medication for it.  mo money, Mo Money, MO MONEY!!! :D</p>
<p>More importantly, you can utilize the new distinction to brainwash girls that this is not who they want to be when they grow up.. A free-thinking, financially independent woman enjoying her life without being subservient to a man (unless that&#8217;s how she gets her kicks..) and getting involved with sex &#038; relationships on her own terms.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like how they try to blackmail guys into selecting a girlfriend by telling us &#8220;You don&#8217;t want to end up as that old-ass man at the bar, do you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking of which&#8230;</p>
<h3>Male Cougars?</h3>
<p>There is no similar term that means male that&#8217;s older than the female he&#8217;s kickin&#8217; it to who has uncommon advantages over that female that he&#8217;s not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to have.</p>
<p>Guys are SUPPOSED to have lots of advantages over the women they&#8217;re dating.  That&#8217;s the whole point of the mating ritual.  She&#8217;s trying to make a come-up by latching onto a guy that&#8217;s better than her, taller than her, stronger than her, richer than her, with a better career than she has, owns more property than her, has better genes than her family does, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>The phrase women like to use is &#8220;I can do poorly all by myself!&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no point in a woman latching onto a man who&#8217;s a lesser human being than she is unless she&#8217;s one of those people that enjoys telling people what to do.  If that&#8217;s her idea of a fun relationship, then more power to her.</p>
<p>So there <em>IS</em> no Cougar-type term for guys because we date women as young as we like, so long as they&#8217;re legal in that particular state.</p>
<p>Will you ever see Hugh Hefner cold lampin&#8217; with chicks his age?  NOPE!.. He likes young chicks and can afford as many of them as he likes.  There&#8217;s no term for that, except perhaps &#8220;The American Dream&#8221;. >:D</p>
<p>According to society&#8217;s standards, guys are SUPPOSED to be older than the gals they date.  They&#8217;re supposed to be taller and smarter and richer&#8230; It&#8217;s not enough of an issue to warrant a particular label, just like women getting laid *WELL* isn&#8217;t enough of an issue to warrant the creation of brothels where women can go to Get Their Groove Back right quick and then get on with their business like men all over the world do every single day of life.</p>
<p>According to a recent Time/CNN article, <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2011796,00.html" rel="nofollow">the Cougar craze is a myth</a>&#8230; What do <em>YOU</em> think? O_o</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a woman leaves you, you may feel heartbroken, depressed, wistful, horny, betrayed, disappointed&#8230; :( any number of feelings, consecutively or simultaneously. Here are five tips on how to move on with your life, and learn to love again&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; 1) Have sex with her sister hahahahaha Just Kidding! :D &#8230; unless her sister&#8217;s HAWT! This [...]]]></description>
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<p>When a woman leaves you, you may feel heartbroken, depressed, wistful, horny, betrayed, disappointed&#8230; :( any number of feelings, consecutively or simultaneously.  Here are five tips on how to move on with your life, and learn to love again&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>1) Have sex with her sister</strong></p>
<p>hahahahaha Just Kidding! :D</p>
<p>&#8230; unless her sister&#8217;s HAWT!  <span id="more-2316"></span></p>
<p>This won&#8217;t help you feel better about yourself if her sister&#8217;s like &#8220;eeeh, ok&#8221;, because she&#8217;s not an upgrade.  Depending on how mediocre she is, you may end up feeling EXPONENTIALLY WORSE! :(</p>
<p>Also, this does NOT&#8230; repeat&#8230; DOES *NOT* work with her best-girlfriend!  Do Not Make This Mistake.  A lot of women are extremely emotionally volatile &#038; catty.  Their friendships with other women turn on a dime&#8230; like happened in her relationship to YOU! :D  This means that there&#8217;s the potential that in the very near future, your ex-girlfriend won&#8217;t care AT ALL about you banging her friend, so you basically wasted your time. (Note for non-Americans&#8230; &#8220;Banging&#8221; is a slang term for &#8220;having sex&#8221;, most likely derived from the sound the woman&#8217;s head makes against the headboard)</p>
<p><strong>2) Have sex with her mother</strong></p>
<p>ok, <strong>*NOW*</strong> I&#8217;m kidding! :D</p>
<p>&#8230; unless her mother&#8217;s RICH!&#8230;&#8230;.. and HAWT!</p>
<p><strong>3) Get a hobby</strong></p>
<p>Take that extra energy that you have, now that you&#8217;re not tappin&#8217; that three times a day, and start working out.  You want to meet women in the gym anyway, because they&#8217;re <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG" rel="nofollow">WYSIWYG</a>.  They don&#8217;t get to hide their <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/06/26/how-to-dress-your-girlfriend/">muffin-tops</a> under those Pee-wee Herman maternity dresses.</p>
<p>Besides&#8230; You were probably getting flabby anyway, since you knew you were going to get laid, regardless, so working out is a double-win for you.</p>
<p><strong>4) Make tons of money</strong></p>
<p>The best revenge is living well.  Now that she&#8217;s not with you, buy that yacht and sail past her house every Saturday with your new girlfriends that you picked up at the gym! :D  Rev your new Ferrari&#8217;s engine outside that diner where she&#8217;s working the overnight shift to make ends meet after her regular job on the assembly line at the sock factory.</p>
<p>oh&#8230; wait&#8230;..  Make sure you didn&#8217;t have any <a href="http://billcammack.com/2007/10/07/navigating-the-kid-thing/">kids</a> with her before y&#8217;all broke up!  If you did, skip this tip, because the more money you make, the more you have to give her in alimony and child support, so you&#8217;d actually be better off trying to figure out how to get her back instead of buying boats and cars. :D</p>
<p><strong>5) Drink alcohol</strong></p>
<p>Helps you forget your ex ever existed and makes her sister look better, in case you decide to try #1. :D</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fellaz&#8230; If you actually intend to spend more than a couple of days with the same chick, check out her moms. ASAP. NOOOOWWW! :D TO-DAY! :O This is vital. Make sure you see what her moms looks like so you know what you have to look forward to (or run away from) in the future. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2007/09/01/check-out-her-moms-o/"></g:plusone></div><p>Fellaz&#8230;</p>
<p>If you actually intend to spend more than a couple of days with the same chick, check out her moms. ASAP. NOOOOWWW! :D TO-DAY! :O</p>
<p>This is vital. Make sure you see what her moms looks like so you know what you have to look forward to (or run away from) in the future. How do they say?&#8230; &#8220;The apple doesn&#8217;t fall far from the tree&#8221;? :D</p>
<p>Granted, styles of eating and ideas about working out, etc, have changed since her mother was in prime condition in her heyday, so you have to factor that in to her mother&#8217;s current condition. It&#8217;s much easier for women to stay in shape these days&#8230; now that they are allowed to join gymnasiums and work outside of the home.</p>
<p>If she looks better than her moms&#8230;. like, TODAY&#8230; that&#8217;s a good thing. If they look about the same, that could be good or bad. If her moms could be mistaken for her sister, that&#8217;s good. Props to her mom, and to good genes! :D If she could be mistaken for her moms, that&#8217;s bad. :(</p>
<p>In case you can&#8217;t judge for yourself, let the professionals decide. Take them both out to a bar that has a doorman. If the doorman lets your girlfriend in, but cards her mother, it&#8217;s time for a new girlfriend.</p>
<p>We can assume, here in NYC, that your girlfriend&#8217;s mother is at least 13 years older than she is. There is NO EXCUSE for her mother to be more attractive than her&#8230; NONE! :D</p>
<p>As usual, make sure you factor in your girlfriend&#8217;s personality and character before ditching her. If she&#8217;s into staying in shape because she likes the way she looks to herself when she&#8217;s in shape, there&#8217;s a good chance she won&#8217;t &#8220;fall off&#8221; anytime soon. If she&#8217;s one of those &#8220;stay in shape until she gets a man&#8221; chicks, you&#8217;ll be completely dependent upon genetics. Just keep an eye on the ratio between when she picks up a snack and when she picks up the entry card to her health club.</p>
<p>Also, pay careful attention when your girl gets depressed. Chicks love to eat when they&#8217;re feeling down. If you suspect foul play in the kitchen, find a way to trick her into getting on the scale on a regular basis. Make a game out of it. :) Play &#8220;I bet I ate more dinner than you&#8221; with her on the pretense of determining weight before and after a meal, then make sure you keep daily and weekly stats like blog metrics.</p>
<p>Also, pay attention to your girl&#8217;s mother&#8217;s work ethic. If she likes to spend money more than she likes to MAKE money, she probably passed that on to your girl as well. If she took your girl to department stores more than she took her to &#8220;bring your kid to work day&#8221; at her job, your girl&#8217;s priorities may be irretrievably skewed.</p>
<p>You get the picture. Make sure you compare your chick to her mother, giving her moms write-offs for the extra years she&#8217;s had to stay in shape to avoid becoming a has-been. On the off-chance that the moms REALLY SHINES compared to your girlfriend&#8230;</p>
<p>find out if her moms is single. :D</p>
<p>DatingGenius</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having read the archives of HollaBackBOSTON, HollaBackNYC and HollaBackDC, that I found out about the other day and posted about&#8230; I gained more of an understanding of what their complaints are. [Disclosure: Anyone who actually KNOWS me knows that there's nothing I like more than an attractive chick, and I'll be the FIRST one to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2007/01/15/hollaback-girls-02/"></g:plusone></div><p>Having read the archives of <a href="http://hollabackboston.blogspot.com/">HollaBackBOSTON</a>, <a href="http://hollabacknyc.blogspot.com/">HollaBackNYC</a> and <a href="http://hollabackdc.blogspot.com/">HollaBackDC</a>, that I found out about the other day and posted about&#8230; I gained more of an understanding of what their complaints are.</p>
<p>[Disclosure:  Anyone who actually KNOWS me knows that there's nothing I like more than an attractive chick, and I'll be the FIRST one to check her out... regardless. :D]</p>
<p>The way I can empathize with what they&#8217;re saying is to consider bums that we have on the streets of NYC.  For instance, you might have a bum standing outside of McDonalds, who has taken it upon himself to act as the doorman.  As you go inside, he&#8217;ll hold the door for you and perhaps say something pleasant to you.  On your way out, he&#8217;ll hold the door again, and then ask you for some change.  That&#8217;s pretty annoying.  First of all, it&#8217;s not like he has an actual JOB with McDonalds.  Second, it&#8217;s not like you ASKED HIM to open the door for you either time.  Third, you go to McDonalds all the time and open your own doors, so what in the world do you need HIM to open the doors for, and FOURTH, why would you choose to pay him for a service that you didn&#8217;t ask for.  That&#8217;s a couple of levels more annoying than going to the bathroom in a restaurant or club and finding out that there&#8217;s some guy whose job it is to stand next to the sinks and hand you paper towels, and he expects you to tip him. :?</p>
<p>The reason I see the bum @ McDonalds as a simliar situation is that he&#8217;s attempting to interrupt whatever you were doing, saying or thinking in order to try to get some money for you, totally to HIS benefit, and none to yours.  This would be similar to the guy on the street that makes some complimentary statement to a woman so maybe he can &#8216;get on&#8217; in the near future.  The reason it&#8217;s NOT similar is that I&#8217;m a guy.  I have all these fantastic, aggressive male options available to me, such as telling the bum to shut up or mind his business, saying I don&#8217;t have any change, or letting him know I take offense to him bothering me and if he keeps it up, I&#8217;m going to do something about it.</p>
<p>One difference is that many women are intimidated by male harassers and aren&#8217;t willing to attempt to get them to cease and desist.  This makes sense, because most men like women that are smaller than they are, so they would be physically intimidating to the women.  Another difference is that women can&#8217;t act like they don&#8217;t have what the guy wants.  The fact that the guy has chosen to try to get some from her indicates that he&#8217;s already decided she has what he wants.  The bum doesn&#8217;t know whether I have change on me or not.  If I tell him I don&#8217;t have it, and he persists, there&#8217;s going to be a problem.</p>
<p>This is where I empathize with the HollaBack series the most, because a lot of the women who post there aren&#8217;t willing to do anything but talk to or about their harassers.  Some guy says something or touches them or does something he knows damned well he shouldn&#8217;t be doing, and their only recourse is to talk about how ugly he is or how old he is or how out of shape he is or how badly he smells or how pathetic he is or how disrespectful to women&#8230;.</p>
<p>The pattern is clear, though.  In the vast majority of the cases, by the women&#8217;s own posts, the men didn&#8217;t give a damn AT ALL what the women thought or wanted, and they still don&#8217;t.  This is something they understand, but they don&#8217;t seem to benefit from this knowledge.  Knowing that the guys don&#8217;t care what they think or say doesn&#8217;t cause them to revise their complaints to a more efficient format that might bring about education and perhaps some degree of change.  It&#8217;s the same reason why the porno industry is big business.  The women look good, do what the guys want them to do, and have ZERO opinions about ANYTHING.  It stands to reason that if you take someone whose only interest in women is how good they look and &#8220;what they&#8217;re good for&#8221;, and put him on the street and he does whatever he does, it&#8217;s not an effective retort to say stuff like:</p>
<p>&#8220;you&#8217;re old enough to be my father&#8221;<br />
&#8220;you don&#8217;t even know me&#8221;<br />
&#8220;your breath stinks&#8221;<br />
&#8220;you&#8217;re disrespectful to women&#8221;<br />
&#8220;would you treat your mother or sister like that?&#8221; (my personal favorite :D)<br />
&#8220;have you no home training?&#8221;<br />
[flipping the bird or cursing him out]<br />
[some statement to him that she wasn't "dressed sexy" at all]<br />
&#8220;did I ask you to talk to me?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I didn&#8217;t give you any indication I was interested in you&#8221;<br />
etc etc etc etc etc&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think HollaBack&#8217;s idea of the women taking pictures of the range of guys from pervs down to regular guys just trying to meet a woman he finds attractive is a good idea, although a dangerous one, for obvious reasons that I won&#8217;t bother to go into.  Apparently they also give speeches and have other programs that they do.  I think that&#8217;s great, because increasing education and awareness is key, IMO.  They&#8217;re never going to outlaw guys trying to talk to girls&#8230; That&#8217;s just not going to happen.  Society&#8217;s set up so that guys have to chase girls, period.  That&#8217;s why guys court women and take them out to dinner and buy them drinks at the club, etc etc.  It&#8217;s all an attempt to gain favor with her so he can eventually get whatever it is he wants from her&#8230; sex, a relationship, free food, a place to stay, money, whatever.  Biologically, women are more of a commodity than men, simply by the incredible difference between how much sperm men have and continually create, and how few eggs women are born with and then they don&#8217;t get any more.  It&#8217;s never going to be different, so the best bet is to increase awareness that women feel endangered when guys press up on them in the street.</p>
<p>So&#8230; With my new understanding of what the issues are for women being harassed in the street, I decided to take a walk tonight and pay attention to the interactions I had.  I walked to a bar without incident.  The male &#8220;doorman&#8221; checked my ID without incident.  The female hostess greeted me without incident.  I ordered my beer from the male bartender without incident.  The few people that needed to get by where I was standing, some male and some female, excused themselves, I made way for them and they went by without extraneous comments.  I left the bar without incident.  I walked around the neighborhood some more, passing individuals, couples walking together and groups&#8230; no incident.  I went into Barnes &#038; Noble.  I asked a woman there with a laptop if she was using a wireless connection.  She wasn&#8217;t.  I asked this guy behind the counter if B&#038;N had wifi, he said yes, and got me a pamphlet on it.  I thanked him and left.  I ordered food from a female cashier and didn&#8217;t hear any extraneous remarks from her or from the waitress that was hanging out near the front of the place.  I went to another store, then walked back home without incident.</p>
<p>Just about every one of those situations is mentioned in a story by some woman on those HollaBack sites, and I&#8217;m sure whatever other support groups that were created for this kind of thing.  I can&#8217;t imagine how annoyed I&#8217;d be if every time I went to do something, someone tried to strike up a conversation with me or get something from me.  For me, it would be like bums standing in front of every place that I want to go into and always asking me for change! :D  Still, I can&#8217;t fully &#8220;get it&#8221;, because my aggressive nature makes me see situations like that as a challenge, not something intimidating.  I don&#8217;t feel pressure&#8230; I just feel annoyed.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230; Good luck to the <a href="http://www.hi-techgirl.com/hollaback/">HollaBack Girls</a>.  Some of the guys on those pages are legitimate creeps and need to be prosecuted.  A lot of the guys are just &#8220;boys being boys&#8221;, and I can tell you, as one of the boys, a lot of them just don&#8217;t get it as far how the women feel physically intimidated by their street raps.  A lot of guys aren&#8217;t going to care one way or the other, and they&#8217;re going to enjoy women as they see fit.  I think that there are also a lot that would change their ways of being if they received some sort of education that what they consider flirtation and socialization is seen by many women as harassment and physical intimidation.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I&#8217;m talking to this chick, and she&#8217;s telling me she thinks her baby knows what her name is. The baby&#8217;s only a few months old, so there&#8217;s clearly no way this is possible. Babies don&#8217;t come out of the box equipped with the ability to parse statements in the language of their parents. This [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div name="googleone_share_1" style="position:relative;z-index:5;clear:right; float: right; margin-right: 10px; margin-top:10px;"><g:plusone size="tall" count="1" href="http://billcammack.com/2006/12/26/does-your-baby-know-your-name-d/"></g:plusone></div><p>So I&#8217;m talking to this chick, and she&#8217;s telling me she thinks her baby knows what her name is.  The baby&#8217;s only a few months old, so there&#8217;s clearly no way this is possible.</p>
<p>Babies don&#8217;t come out of the box equipped with the ability to parse statements in the language of their parents.  This means that it&#8217;s just as easy for the baby to select someone&#8217;s name from a bunch of gibberish which happens to be English for me to select someone&#8217;s name out of a sentence spoken in Swahili.  I do not KNOW Swahili, so I would have no idea of knowing which bunch of syllables is a proper name.  I wouldn&#8217;t know which words represent verbs and I wouldn&#8217;t know which words represent nouns.  I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;if I were a few-months-old-baby&#8221;&#8230; I&#8217;m saying RIGHT NOW! :D  I would have NO IDEA what someone is saying in a language that I don&#8217;t understand.  The only way I would have a chance is if the name in that language is similar to a name in English, the language that *I* speak and understand.  That comes from years of hearing and understanding people&#8217;s names as well as having a grasp of the English language, as well as being more than a few months old.</p>
<p>This is why you can teach babies any language you want.  They don&#8217;t come out with abilities in English, Swahili, French&#8230; none of that.  The baby learns language from whomever teaches the baby language.  First of all, babies don&#8217;t understand that people are called by NAMES at all.  That&#8217;s a construct.  If people called each other by numbers, this same person would swear that the baby knew that that set of numbers pertained to her. :D  Every time someone uttered those numbers in that sequence, the baby would think they were talking about her.  This assumes that the baby understands numbers.  This assumes that the baby understands sequences.  This assumes that the baby can parse sentences.  This assumes a lot of things that just aren&#8217;t true.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure women would LOVE TO BELIEVE that their children know their names the first time the doctor slaps them, hahaha but it&#8217;s just not true.  Also, it assumes that people call that woman the same thing over and over.  What if people call her different things in front of the baby?  I&#8217;ve gone to a few places where someone foreign to American customs was not aware that Bill is another name for William.  They had NO IDEA that both of those names refer to the same person.  These were GROWN PEOPLE in service-industry jobs.  Why is it that they had no idea it&#8217;s the same name?  Because it&#8217;s not in their custom&#8230; It&#8217;s not what they grew up with.  They also wouldn&#8217;t know that Chuck is a name for Charles or that Dick is a name for Richard (Dick Nixon?).  Similarly, babies don&#8217;t come equipped with the understanding that when someone utters several syllables in a row, or even worse, one syllable made up of a couple of consonants and a vowel, that it&#8217;s a representation of ANYONE, including their own mothers.</p>
<p>If you believe this is true, feel free to record someone saying your name over and over, and see how many times your baby thinks that recording is talking about you. :D  Maybe have someone hold your baby and have them say your name over and over and see how many times your baby looks in your direction.  Better yet&#8230; have someone say your name in Swahili, since you think babies understand languages they haven&#8217;t been taught yet right off the bat! :D</p>
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