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		<description><![CDATA[In response to Wingman Responsibilities [Hunters, Part 01], Reader &#8220;C Jay&#8221; writes: &#8220;One thing i wanted to ask is about the whole follow the leader thing. Doesnt it make more tactical sense that the wing be the leader, i mean except for target selection he basically determines everything else.&#8221; This is an excellent question and [...]]]></description>
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<p>In response to <a href="http://billcammack.com/2010/02/07/wingman-responsibilities-hunters-part-01/">Wingman Responsibilities [Hunters, Part 01]</a>,  Reader &#8220;C Jay&#8221; writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;One thing i wanted to ask is about the whole follow the leader thing. Doesnt it make more tactical sense that the wing be the leader, i mean except for target selection he basically determines everything else.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an excellent question and one I&#8217;ve never considered before.  The short answer is: &#8220;The Top Gun leads the rap unless the &#8216;lesser dude&#8217; in the situation has exclusive recon that makes him the one that should be calling the shots&#8221;.  Therefore, there are actually TWO configurations you have to deal with.. Who is the leader when neither one of you has a chick yet and who is the leader once ONE OF YOU gets a rap and the other becomes &#8220;wingman&#8221; by default?</p>
<h3>Training Grounds</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/415186069/" rel="me" title="ReelSolid.TV  &quot;301&quot; by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/415186069_5322bdc3b5.jpg" style="float:left" width="300" alt="ReelSolid.TV  &quot;301&quot;" /></a>I really like this question, because I spent A. LOT. OF. TIME. as NOT THE TOP DOG when it comes to pulling chicks.  There are two ways you can deal with this.. Fight against the <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/08/06/pecking-order-play-your-position/">pecking order</a> and still try to pull the top girls or go with the flow and benefit from the trickle-down as well as learning what the players did to be successful so you can emulate them in the future. <span id="more-7731"></span></p>
<p>When you first start out in the game, you don&#8217;t realize you&#8217;re at a SEVERE DISADVANTAGE because you don&#8217;t know what guys are doing to attract chicks.  You think it&#8217;s pot luck.  &#8220;I went somewhere, a chick liked me, I got on&#8221;.  Little did you know that tricks of the trade were being used to send primitive indicators to girls that they should select the next guy instead of you.  If you pay close attention for long enough, you figure out what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>You have the same jeans on, but theirs are perfectly ironed and creased.  You have the same jacket on, but they work out and they&#8217;re in better shape than you.  They go to the barber shop before the weekend so their &#8220;line is tight&#8221; and you don&#8217;t.  They have a job, so they have more money than you get from your allowance.  They spent $50 on a flimsy gold chain that they FINALLY got out of layaway, but they also bought a nice medallion that chicks flock to and want to look at and touch, while you have enough money to buy that same chain right now in your pocket, but there&#8217;s nothing for chicks to SEE, so you lose.  They have the <a href="http://billcammack.com/2009/04/05/why-r-b-music-works-on-women/">slow jam tape</a> on them and you don&#8217;t.  They took a virtual BATH in Egyptian Musk and you didn&#8217;t&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<h3>Protect The Leader</h3>
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<p>What you figure out eventually is that you&#8217;re walking into the war without your vest and without your gun.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been in an actual war and I&#8217;m not going to be.. I&#8217;ve been in innumerable wars via FPS video gaming.</p>
<p>I remember being in a HALO game with my crew after we acquired a female player we call &#8220;Angel&#8221;.  We were playing team deathmatch, and as the squad leader, I&#8217;m in charge of figuring out how we&#8217;re doing and determining our strategy second to second.</p>
<p>So every time I hit the button to check the individual and team scores, Angel&#8217;s K/D (kill-to-death ratio) is going UP while the rest of ours are going DOWN and the game is pretty much even.  I&#8217;m not a shooter, I&#8217;m a strategist and I tell other people who to shoot, so I wasn&#8217;t going to be a factor in putting us in the lead for good.</p>
<p>The simple fact the numbers were telling me was that when Angel was UP, our team was advancing, and when Angel was DOWN, the other team was advancing.  The executive decision I made as soon as I figured this out was that *EVERYBODY*s job for the rest of the game was to make sure that ANGEL stayed alive.</p>
<p>Anybody you see shooting at Angel, CAP him.  If she&#8217;s in a firefight, shoot the guy she&#8217;s shooting.  If there&#8217;s a powerup or ammo for her weapons, leave that for her.  If you&#8217;re getting shot while you&#8217;re helping Angel, too bad for you.. You&#8217;re SOL (**** out of luck).  You don&#8217;t turn around and shoot that person.  You stay on your assignment, and when that dude drops you, he&#8217;s going to have to reload and Angel&#8217;s going to get our kill back.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the rest of our teammates believed in my time-proven ability to strategize and sacrificed themselves, as did I, to keep Angel Blazin&#8217;, and we ended up crushing the other team decisively.</p>
<p>This is the same way raps need to be handled.  Whomever is being EFFECTIVE, RIGHT NOW is the one the team has to rally behind to facilitate his efficiency.  If he&#8217;s rapping to the girl you wanted?&#8230; You have to eat that.  Maybe you get the best chick next time.  All you do by fighting over or rapping to the same chick is make your entire crew look like Busters and then none of y&#8217;all deserves the rap! :D</p>
<p>Meanwhile, whomever has the favor of the crowd has to <a href="http://billcammack.com/2009/07/31/hook-your-boy-up-stop-being-greedy/">not be selfish</a>.  Recognize that you&#8217;re able to do what you&#8217;re doing right now because other guys are warding off cockblockers and sacrificing their own desires so you can rap to a chick they want for themselves.  It&#8217;s YOUR JOB to put in a good word for your boys and facilitate THEIR raps to the extra chicks instead of riding your current success to glory in Valhalla.</p>
<h3>There&#8217;s No &#8220;I&#8221; In TEAM!</h3>
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<p>So.. To answer C Jay&#8217;s question, the leader in a situation where two guys head out to pick up chicks is dynamic, not static.</p>
<p>Optimally, BOTH GUYS have an equal grasp of the game and either guy is likely to get a rap at any point of the night.</p>
<p>When that&#8217;s the case, it becomes a flow, like hockey players on a 2 vs. 1 break.  It&#8217;s not important that one particular guy scores.  It&#8217;s important that THE TEAM goes ahead by one goal.</p>
<p>If the team goes +1, there&#8217;s a good chance that EVERYONE will end up with the &#8220;W&#8221;.  If the guys on the break are selfish, they might screw up their advantage, nobody scores, and the team isn&#8217;t any better off.</p>
<p>This is one of the reasons why <a href="http://billcammack.com/2010/02/07/wingman-responsibilities-hunters-part-01/">Wingman Selection</a> is so important.  You have to actually be HAPPY if your boy gets on and you go home with nothing or waste hours distracting her homegirl from blocking your boy&#8217;s action.  Dudes that don&#8217;t have this kind of rapport with each other start getting sour and sabotaging raps and making the whole crew look like clowns.</p>
<h3>Bada Bing, Bada Boom</h3>
<p>So, assuming you have equal dudes working together, the leader is the one that has the best idea for how one or both of them are going to get on tonight.  You saw this in &#8220;Jersey Shore&#8221; when Mike &#038; Pauly were standing out in the street deciding whether to invite the chick and the grenade home to hop in the hot tub.  Mike has a line on the girl he wants to hook up with.  That chick comes with an extra chick that needs to be distracted, which is going to be Pauly&#8217;s job.</p>
<p>Pauly says to him &#8220;We don&#8217;t have anything better, right?&#8221;.  This means that they&#8217;ve kicked all the game they&#8217;re willing to kick for the evening and it&#8217;s time to disappear with some chicks.  If Pauly had pulled a chick that HE wanted to bring back, he would have said so right there.  Since he hadn&#8217;t, he was willing to facilitate Mike&#8217;s rap and help him try to score.</p>
<p>At that point in the game, the leader was Mike, because he had a direct connection to a girl he was trying to hook up with.  Best-Case Scenario for the evening was Mike +1, Pauly +0 = Team +1.  Once they got home, Mike dropped the ball and didn&#8217;t isolate his chick fast enough before Pauly got tired/bored/annoyed with covering for him and bailed.  We don&#8217;t know what happened, because that&#8217;s an edited show, but Pauly SHOULD have told Mike to hurry the **** up and make it happen.</p>
<p>At that point, as C Jay is suggesting, the wing is actually the leader, however, I suggest that he took over because he had a better grasp of the situation, which was that Mike wasn&#8217;t pulling the trigger and something good needed to happen QUICKLY, or else.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I really doubt this is the case in most situations.  I think most of the time, either one or both guys don&#8217;t know the first thing about what they&#8217;re doing with chicks and it&#8217;s a Keystone Cops / pot luck scenario, thus the term &#8220;Getting Lucky&#8221;, because guys have no idea how they got laid. \o/</p>
<h3>Experience > Current Advantage</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/961956462/" rel="me" title="Bill &amp; KV by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/961956462_69a67b1c79.jpg" style="float:left" width="300" alt="Bill &amp; KV" /></a>When you have one guy that knows what he&#8217;s doing and one guy that doesn&#8217;t, there is NO. CHANGE. IN. LEADERSHIP.  The other guy&#8217;s not qualified to make any decisions.</p>
<p>Regardless of who&#8217;s working on someone at the time, the &#8216;lesser&#8217; dude doesn&#8217;t suddenly have wisdom bestowed upon him because he happens to currently enjoy the best chance of getting on.</p>
<p>I found this out the hard way in a couple of scenarios.  In one of them, 4 or 5 of us rolled up on several chicks and I was talking to a pretty nice-looking girl until to my chagrin, the Top Dog broke from the girl he was rapping to and rolled up on my conversation, rendering me immediately invisible. :D hahaha OH. MAN!.. I. Was. Mad. As. A. ****!!! :D</p>
<p>The other situation was that I was talking to this chick first but didn&#8217;t kick the proper game.  I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Street&#8221; enough for her tastes, so eventually, this SCRUM (lowlife) came over that was part of my crew and started talking to her and she fell for it immediately.</p>
<p>This dude probably LITERALLY had DUST in his pockets, was dumb as a box of rocks and at the time had no earning potential whatsoever&#8230; BUT&#8230; he was wearing trendy clothes and had an earring and sounded like he was from the ghetto, which he was, and the chick immediately went out like a sucker.</p>
<p>I think I even TOLD HER THAT DAY that my homeboy wasn&#8217;t about JACK (not to try to cockblock him, but because I could see her future from the way she was blindly jocking him so hard), but she didn&#8217;t want to hear it.  She was too busy sweating him.  A few months later, I run into her in the street and she&#8217;s all crying and distraught because she&#8217;s pregnant by him and he threw her number in the trash.  C&#8217;est La Vie. \o/</p>
<p>The point being that I didn&#8217;t come to the table with the &#8220;Toolry &#038; the Jewelry&#8221; to turn these chicks&#8217; heads, so I didn&#8217;t have any say in the raps whatsoever.  My effect on the situation was minimal, so my choice in the matter was to follow the leaders and depend on the trickle-down unless the leaders decided to swoop in and bag that up as well. :D</p>
<h3>Critical Recon &#038; Intel</h3>
<p>The *ONLY* time the lesser dude has any juice is when he&#8217;s privy to exclusive and important information that changes the game.</p>
<p>Sometimes, even though you&#8217;re not even trying, a chick is just sweating you for some unknown reason.  She likes how you look&#8230; She likes that you&#8217;re not pressing up on every chick in the place&#8230; She likes that you sound educated&#8230; You&#8217;re at the beach, so she can tell you&#8217;re in FANTASTIC SHAPE compared to your more-suave homeboys&#8230; You actually listen to her and talk to her instead of nodding at her until you can get laid&#8230;.. Whatever it is, there are some circumstances where the lesser dude has a chick locked down, and that&#8217;s when HE becomes the most important guy in the crew.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s still not the SMARTEST when it comes to this, so it&#8217;s in his best interest to pull the Top Dog to the side and explain the situation so the tactics can be determined.  The fact remains that he&#8217;s currently THE MAN, so the team&#8217;s goal is to make sure he&#8217;s as successful as possible and everyone else gets whatever they can salvage from the evening.</p>
<p>Another common intel situation is that chicks are often too scared to kick it to the Top Dogs.  For the same reasons that guys find it insanely easy to talk to girls they&#8217;re not attracted to, some chicks will approach lower-level dudes and TELL THEM DIRECTLY that they&#8217;re interested in the guy they&#8217;re scared to talk to.  This is your opportunity to not be a ******* HATER and share the wealth.  If you see that your boy&#8217;s wasting time trying to kick it to a different chick when this one&#8217;s already down with the program (assuming of course that they&#8217;re interchangeable, looks-wise), find a way to interrupt your boy and let him know what time it is.  If he&#8217;s happy with his current chick, he might send you back to get her number for future reference.  If he&#8217;s tired of putting in work and wants to get down to the nitty gritty, he&#8217;ll probably pass this chick off to you and go talk to the &#8220;Sure Thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do NOT let your feelings of jealousy cause you to sit on intel.  Sometimes, it&#8217;s just not your day.  Sometimes, your boy gets all the raps and you have to be cool with that or you&#8217;re in the wrong business.  Go solo if you hate seeing your friends enjoy themselves.</p>
<p>Of course, conflict can occur when both guys happen to get on simultaneously with different sets of chicks, haha in which case, they&#8217;ll have to agree to split up and handle each group separately or one guy needs to get contact information and close out so he can assist his boy with the other set.</p>
<h3>Dynamic Allocation</h3>
<p>So we wind up back at the short answer.  The Leader is determined dynamically, based on the situation and the guy&#8217;s respective skillz when it comes to pulling chicks.  Both guys have to know each other&#8217;s styles and both have to respect each other&#8217;s games to the degree that they&#8217;re willing to take one for the team this time, knowing that their boy&#8217;s going to do the same for them when THEY&#8217;RE in an advantageous position.  Without that inherent trust &#038; camaraderie, the whole thing falls apart and it&#8217;s every man for himself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that the game starts before you leave the house.  You need to walk out the door envisioning how the night&#8217;s going to go for you AND your boys.  You have to understand your friends&#8217; strengths and weaknesses so you can see the playing field properly when the evening&#8217;s chicks show up and it&#8217;s time to make it happen.  You have to understand where you&#8217;re going and which wingmen are going to be effective in that particular environment.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the reasons I really enjoyed MTV&#8217;s &#8220;Jersey Shore&#8221; is that they finally showed the lifestyle of what I call &#8220;Hunters&#8221;. Pauly &#038; Mike were hunters, at least at the time that show was taped. They were down for the game. Fresh (new) chicks every night. They had a couple of repeat chicks, but [...]]]></description>
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<p><img style="float:left" width="300" src="http://www.mtv.com/onair/jersey_shore/photos/hookup/snook-mike-pauly/_DSC1679.jpg" title="Mike, Snooki, Pauly 'Jersey Shore'" alt="Mike, Snooki, Pauly 'Jersey Shore'" />One of the reasons I really enjoyed MTV&#8217;s &#8220;Jersey Shore&#8221; is that they finally showed the lifestyle of what I call &#8220;Hunters&#8221;.  Pauly &#038; Mike were hunters, at least at the time that show was taped.  They were down for the game.  Fresh (new) chicks every night.  They had a couple of repeat chicks, but for the most part, they were struggling to see what they could do every day and that&#8217;s what hunting&#8217;s all about.</p>
<p>Hunting isn&#8217;t for everybody.  A lot of guys are looking to land the best chick they can get and retire.  That&#8217;s what Ronnie did.  He definitely <em>COULD</em> have hunted if he wanted to, but he didn&#8217;t want to. :D  He sold out for the guaranteed daily lay with a chick that floated his boat and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with THAT! :D  &#8216;Matter of fact, it looked like Mike was hating himself for having his hands on Sammi first and blowing it by pulling more random chicks to hop in the hot tub and make out.  Had he realized his error earlier, it might have been &#8220;The Situation&#8221; that sold out and Ronnie &#038; Pauly hunting. <span id="more-7609"></span></p>
<p>Vinny didn&#8217;t do much of anything extraordinary.  He pulled this old chick that his landlord/boss had been trying to kick it to and he pulled Mike&#8217;s sister after Mike HELPED VINNY by introducing them.  Throughout the show, Vinny was the balance for the guys, bringing the &#8220;nice guy&#8221; and &#8220;voice of reason&#8221; vibe to the group.</p>
<h3>Distract The DUFF</h3>
<p>One of the best parts of the show was when Pauly &#038; Mike are standing outside a club figuring out their prospects for the evening.  They had been in it to win it but didn&#8217;t come up with anything satisfying to both of them, so Pauly agreed to take one for the team and assist Mike in getting on with this chick he liked.</p>
<p>Pauly&#8217;s job was to distract the DUFF (Designated Ugly Fat Friend), which they referred to as a &#8220;Grenade&#8221;.  The idea is basically that the chick was a grenade someone threw and Pauly was willing to fall on it to save Mike. hahaha oh man. :D</p>
<p>In case you&#8217;re not aware of what Mike needed saving from, it&#8217;s called CockBlocking.  It&#8217;s when someone sees that you&#8217;re about to get laid or whatever and deliberately messes up your action.  If Pauly hadn&#8217;t gone with Mike to invite the two girls back to the crib, Mike wouldn&#8217;t have been able to extract the one girl by herself = no sex.  By Pauly talking to the DUFF, which he said ahead of time that he wasn&#8217;t interested in messing with AT ALL, it gave her HOPE that she might hook up with a guy she liked.  That&#8217;s really all you need to extract girls from situations.. Give them all HOPE that they&#8217;re all going to have a good time.</p>
<p>Without that hope, she&#8217;s going to hate.  She&#8217;s going to hate on Mike for trying to get laid and she&#8217;s going to hate on her girlfriend for being more attractive than she is and always getting the offers &#038; attention.  It&#8217;s in her best interest to destroy Mike&#8217;s rap, which means she&#8217;s a grenade.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to help your boy out and distract the extra chick, it&#8217;s your boy&#8217;s job to make it ******* SNAPPY and get on as soon as possible.  He should know that you would rather be watching television, playing foosball, drunk-dialing some chick you actually want to kick it with or just plain BEING ASLEEP rather than wasting time distracting the DUFF, so he should be courteous and hurry the **** up with makin&#8217; it happen.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what Mike did.  Apparently, he was too drunk to recognize the situation and he was playing it as if Pauly had a girl he was trying to hook up with, which would have meant they had all night to get on.  Meanwhile, the chick got on Pauly&#8217;s nerves to the point where he just flat-left and the grenade ended up blowing up Mike&#8217;s rap and extracting her girlfriend when Mike already had her in bed. :D *BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM*!!! HAHAHA :D</p>
<h3>Wingman Courtesy</h3>
<p>Pauly was completely within his rights to leave Mike with both chicks.  Mike was at fault for having a slow-ass rap.  I know how it feels to be on wingman/DUFF duty and time moves SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY.  I mean it takes FOR-EV-VER for your boy to finish up and hit the bathroom so you can finally BOUNCE (assuming you don&#8217;t live there).  In the meantime, you&#8217;re at your wits&#8217; END trying to keep this chick amused without tipping your hand that you&#8217;re trying to keep her amused.  You have to act interested in her or else she&#8217;s going to figure out what&#8217;s going on and barge in while your boy&#8217;s tagging up and ruin the entire experience for him.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mind wasting my time because my boy was already hooking up.  I was just making sure he didn&#8217;t get interrupted.  Mike took so long to get to the nitty-gritty that Pauly broke out before Mike even CONSIDERED extracting his chick to a private room.  If that had been how I was feeling, I would have told my boy to use it or lose it and he would have had to do two-minute-drill to get his girl alone or I would have been out.</p>
<p>Other than that.. Just like they advised in &#8220;Top Gun&#8221;, Never Leave Your Wingman.  If you can&#8217;t get on, at least you can get the assist.  Of course, sudden opportunities sometimes arise where you&#8217;re getting attention from a chick you actually want, in which case you should inform your boy that you&#8217;re going to peel off to see about the other chick and he&#8217;s going to have to deal with the grenade until you get back&#8230; IF you get back! ;)</p>
<h3>Team Selection</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billcammack/1702724816/" title="Bill_Cammack_GSX-R_NYC_Night.jpg by Bill Cammack, on Flickr"><img style="float:left" rel="me" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2223/1702724816_bf58714c1d_o.jpg" width="300" alt="Bill_Cammack_GSX-R_NYC_Night.jpg" /></a>Another important issue is that you have to be somewhat matched up with your wingman.  By that, I mean that y&#8217;all have to have approximately the same vibe, even if one of you is superior to the other one in a bunch of stuff.</p>
<p>Like, let&#8217;s say it would have been Mike and Vinny instead of Mike and Pauly&#8230;  Mike might not have gotten to extract his chick at all because the DUFF might not have considered Vinny her type and she would have vetoed the action from the giddyap.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, types change from venue to venue.  A dude might make an excellent wingman in a ghetto bar and be an absolute liability in a wine bar.  You have to know where you&#8217;re going when you&#8217;re assembling your team.  For Seaside Heights, Ronnie, Pauly &#038; Mike could have cleaned up.. Vinny, not so much.</p>
<p>Also, even if your boy has the look, he has to have the right demeanor.  You really can&#8217;t afford to have your props dragged down into oblivion because your boy is all thirsty and drooling over chicks.  When I&#8217;m hunting, I like to play the wall and scope out the action.  You have to figure out which chicks are kickin&#8217; it with or might have arrived with which guys, which chicks are crowded together in a defensive huddle, which guys are scheming on chicks they haven&#8217;t met yet, etc.</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t see me on the dance floor because I didn&#8217;t come to the party to dance with chicks.  That&#8217;s a waste of my time.  That&#8217;s the cheap win.  If they ask *ME*, then yeah, I&#8217;ll dance with them, but you&#8217;re not gonna see me hovering around the dance floor like a vulture trying to rub up on some chick&#8217;s ass.  You look thirsty and cheap and the chicks figure you for a &#8220;mark&#8221;, meaning some Herb they can get free drinks off of because you&#8217;re hoping to land a number or extraction from them at the end of the evening.  I&#8217;ll be right on the side, checking my email, texts, foursquare &#038; gowalla for whatever other action&#8217;s going on in case this place is lame.</p>
<p>The problem is.. If your boy&#8217;s not on the same vibe, it really doesn&#8217;t matter how cool you are.  He&#8217;s going to hustle on over to the chicks and start playing himself and <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/03/05/buy-a-girl-a-drink-somehing-for-nothing/">buying drinks</a> and then come back over to you, making you look needy and thirsty right along with him because birds of a feather flock together&#8230;  Next thing you know, you have chicks tryin&#8217;na bum drinks offa you that you&#8217;ve never spoken to before in life! :D</p>
<h3>Communication</h3>
<p>If you&#8217;re gonna work with a guy in pulling chicks, communication is entirely and absolutely essential.  You need to be able to signal important information like &#8220;Go away&#8221;, &#8220;Go away and take that chick with you&#8221;, &#8220;Come get this extra chick off of me&#8221;, &#8220;Come here&#8221;, &#8220;Call me away from these chicks&#8221;, &#8220;This isn&#8217;t working&#8221;, &#8220;Switch girls&#8221;, &#8220;Check out those chicks over there&#8221;, &#8220;Did you see her ass??? :O&#8221;, &#8220;Got one! :D&#8221; and &#8220;Let&#8217;s get out of here&#8221; without the chicks noticing what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>You normally want to do this with eye contact and hand gestures that mean something to you and your wingman but don&#8217;t mean anything to anyone else.  At this point, you can also use texting, except that a guy looks rude checking and sending texts while he&#8217;s having a conversation with a gal.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have your communication game tight, expect NOTHING from a guy you&#8217;re hanging out with as far as helping you rap to chicks.  Nothing.  There&#8217;s no reason he should know what you&#8217;re trying to do or what you want HIM to do if you don&#8217;t explicitly inform him.</p>
<h3>Follow The Leader</h3>
<p>You also both have to have equal status as far as vetoing situations.  When two guys are hanging out, one guy doesn&#8217;t become the wingman until the other guy gets a rap.  If your boy kicks it to a chick and you just can&#8217;t see yourself falling on the particular grenade she&#8217;s with, pull him to the side and let him know that he has about five minutes to get some kind of contact information for this chick because you&#8217;re about to break North, regardless.  There&#8217;s no reason why you should waste your evening because your boy wasn&#8217;t courteous enough to kick it to a chick that had good-looking friends for you.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is also a function of Team Selection.  If you don&#8217;t have a properly-balanced team, you end up with leaders and followers instead of a squad of relative equals.  In that case, you don&#8217;t want to follow the followers and you don&#8217;t want the followers attempting to lead the leaders.  Everybody needs to <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/08/06/pecking-order-play-your-position/">play their position</a> so the night runs as smoothly as possible.</p>
<p>The optimum situation is that both sets of guys &#038; gals that got paired up are into each other and everybody&#8217;s looking forward to a good evening.  If one of the fellaz has to take as short, so be it.  Your boy *SHOULD* look out for you next time, actually even attempting to HELP YOU pull the hotter chick because he owes you from last time.  However, if worse comes to worse, Like Clint Eastwood said, &#8220;A Man&#8217;s Gotsta Know His Limitations!&#8221; :D</p>
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<p>Guys don&#8217;t like to follow the rules when they try to meet girls in a group.  There&#8217;s a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecking_order" rel="nofollow">pecking order</a> which has been automatically determined by the individual characteristics of each of the guys YOU chose to hang out with on this particular run.  Whether you know it or not, what&#8217;s going to happen for you this evening is not just LUCK, but it&#8217;s also a function of the &#8216;team&#8217; you&#8217;ve assembled.  TEAM is in quotes, because it&#8217;s usually actually a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motley_crew" rel="nofollow">motley crew</a>, and there&#8217;s really no TEAMWORK involved in the entire evening.  My suggestion is that you a) Figure out your standing amongst your homeboys, b) Play Your Position and c) <strong>Act Like You Know</strong>! :D</p>
<p>Wikipedia has this to say about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy" rel="nofollow">Dominance Hierarchies</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A dominance hierarchy or social hierarchy is an organizational form by which individuals within a community <strong>control the distribution of resources</strong> within the community. Dominance hierarchies are formed when a group of individuals belonging to the same species share a territory.</p>
<p>Dominance hierarchies can be despotic or linear. In a despotic hierarchy, one individual controls all the other individuals. In a linear hierarchy, of which the classic example of pecking order in hens is often cited, <strong>each individual has a rank in the hierarchy</strong>.</p>
<p>Dominance hierarchies occur in most social animal species, including primates who normally live in groups. Dominance hierarchies have been extensively studied in fish, birds, and mammals. Dominance hierarchies can be simple linear structures, which often arise from <strong>the physical differences among individuals</strong> in a group in relation to their access to resources. They are also influenced by <strong>the complex social interactions among individuals</strong> in the group.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like I said, the dominance hierarchy is set up automatically.  It&#8217;s merely the difference between who YOU are, and who the guy next to you is.  You don&#8217;t have to agree to it or even LIKE it.  It&#8217;s a fact.  Forget about the guys you don&#8217;t even know that are going to be there&#8230; Depending on whom you hang out with, you might be bringing your worst competition WITH YOU to the party. :D  This is why the intelligent group knows who the top dogs are and acts accordingly.</p>
<p>While this article&#8217;s mainly for the fellaz, it applies to the chicks also.  If you *INSIST* on hanging out with girls magnitudes more physically attractive than you are, do NOT expect to be the first chick rapped to when you meet a bunch of guys&#8230; EV<strong><em>A</em></strong>R! :D  <a href="http://billcammack.com/2008/02/17/life-isnt-fair/">Life isn&#8217;t fair</a>.  It&#8217;s not HER TURN this week and YOUR TURN next week, hahaha it&#8217;s ALWAYS *HER* turn.  Recognize&#8230; and Act Like You Know. :)</p>
<p>Your social life will be much better when you realize and accept your position in the crew.  You can stop banging your head against brick walls and ease back and enjoy the perks of NOT being the team leader.  Your role is support.  You&#8217;re there to assist the team leader in MAKING IT HAPPEN!  What you are *NOT* there to do is battle with the top dog(s) for girls you will never pull over them in the first place.</p>
<p>The way we live in the USA, and especially in New York City, everybody wants the best of everything.  This leads to massive amounts of competition.  Kickin&#8217; it to chicks is no exception.  Every gal you meet has a specific set of likes and dislikes she&#8217;s consciously or subconsciously operating from.  Off the bat, you&#8217;re at an advantage or disadvantage compared to the next man.  Does that mean you CAN&#8217;T get the rap if you start out on the losing end?  Hellz Naw! :D  You&#8217;ll be in a much better position to operate if you recognize the game and play it where it lays.  </p>
<p>You lose if:</p>
<ul>
<li>She likes taller guys and you&#8217;re shorter</li>
<li>She likes athletic guys and you&#8217;re out of shape</li>
<li>She likes rich guys and you&#8217;re broke</li>
<li>She likes original guys and you&#8217;re derivative</li>
<li>She likes smart guys and you&#8217;re an idiot</li>
<li>She likes funny guys and your jokes are dry as hell</li>
<li><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-zaE6aevs" rel="nofollow">He&#8217;s driving a Caddy, you&#8217;re fixin&#8217; a Ford</a></li>
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<p>You get the picture.  Now if the guy trumping you isn&#8217;t a friend of yours, you&#8217;re in for a loooooong night if you still insist on trying to pull that female.  If he IS your friend, then all you need is some strategy.  Unfortunately for you, not being the top dog, that <i>&#8220;strategy&#8221;</i> might mean you don&#8217;t get the rap to that chick AT.ALL! haha  However, for playing your position and facilitating the rap of the team leader, you will receive perks&#8230; trickle-down&#8230; the extra chicks that flock to the team leader, but can&#8217;t kick it to him because their girl is trying to get on! :D</p>
<p>Sometimes, trickle-down is the BEST THING EVER!!!  Sometimes, the hottest chicks aren&#8217;t there yet when you and your crew arrive.  As soon as the team leaders choose ladies to rap to, they&#8217;re locked in.  When that better-looking homegirl shows up, the leaders have to &#8220;eat that&#8221; and introduce them to the guys that have been holding off the cockblockers for them.  hahahahaha CHA-CHING!!! $$$$$ :D</p>
<p>If you refuse to play your position and take what you can get, you make things tougher for ALL of your friends to get on.  Sure, healthy competition&#8217;s good when you first walk in the door, but when you see she&#8217;s digging your friend, step to the left and let him get some light.  When you see that extra chick eyeballing his conversation, take one for the team and go over there and distract her.  Meanwhile, the team leader will see if the gal he&#8217;s talking to has a hawt sister or cousin available for you.</p>
<p><a href="http://billcammack.com/">The Kid</a> learned this lesson the hard way one day, hahaha.  About five of us had descended upon these chicks in a McDonald&#8217;s, and I was probably 4th on the totem pole, meaning second from the LAST GUY that should have gotten a rap from those chicks, hahaha.  IIRC, the top three guys rolled up on the same girl, or maybe two girls and I had a clear shot to this other one, so I sat down and started saying whatever garbage was in my repertoire at the time.  </p>
<p>All of a sudden, from over my left shoulder, MY WORST NIGHTMARE APPEARS, the #1!&#8230; Boom!  He sits down and starts talking to this chick that I was OOOOOBVIOUSLY talking to solo and her attention disappeared from me, immediately!  It was like somebody activated &#8220;The Cones of Silence&#8221; or like I had disappeared or something.  I couldn&#8217;t BELIEVE it.  I was sooooo mad! :D</p>
<p>However, upon tactical discussion after the fact, it became clear to me that a) I hadn&#8217;t physically imposed myself upon her position enough for it to look like I was doing anything other than distracting her from the main rap, as the wingman&#8217;s *supposed* to do, and b) Just because I got there first didn&#8217;t mean she wanted to talk to ME more than the team leader, so the fact that she was so easily distracted meant that I should have just played my position and given him room to operate.</p>
<p>OTOH, sometimes, it&#8217;s just The Kid&#8217;s day, and there&#8217;s nothing anybody can do to stop the bum rush! :D  If it&#8217;s ON, it&#8217;s ON&#8230; Which is why I can <a href="http://billcammack.com/category/datinggenius/">write stuff like this all year &#8217;round</a>, and I&#8217;ll STILL have more female friends than most of y&#8217;all have family members! :D<br />
<center><a href="http://billcammack.com/category/datinggenius/" title="Michelle, Marissa, Bill &#038; Lindsey"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/2438312102_cf3f376e9a.jpg" class="flickr-photo" alt="Michelle, Marissa, Bill &#038; Lindsey" width="350" /></a></center></p>
<p>Anyway&#8230; It&#8217;s a tough pill to swallow, but trust &#038; believe, it&#8217;s in your best interest.  Assess your situation, go for what you want, but make sure you have contingency plans.  You might have your heart SET on &#8220;chick A&#8221;, but if she&#8217;s feelin&#8217; your homeboy, stop catchin&#8217; feelin&#8217;s, facilitate his rap, back his play, associate with the next chick&#8230;</p>
<p>Who knows?  Looks aren&#8217;t everything.  You might be getting the better deal! :D</p>
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